Yes, I get the same results whether the drive is jumpered for cable select, master, or there is no jumper at all (that defaults the drive to cable select, doesn't it, and yes I'm using an 80 conductor cable.)
I did one more thing, I put the hard drive in my freezer for a while and then took it out and connected it. Same results at hand -- the test machine's BIOS warns that no hard drive is detected and for the primary IDE master drive it displays the text 'WD204BB'. So you think I need to replace the firmware on the drive? Is that a costly operation? I do have a small electronics lab here and might be able to attempt that. I don't think my friend can afford the services of Kroll or Ontrack. Thanks Bob Andre Tertling wrote: > Did you check the master/slave jumpers? WD drives have three different > settings, one for single drive, one for master with slave present and > one for slave drive. The wrong ID string leads me to the assumption > that the part of the firmware that's being loaded from the platter > during startup is broken. This can't be fixed by mere mortals. > Companies like Kroll/Ontrack and others can rescue your data (given > that the hard disk didn't shredder your data but just its firmware) > but I doubt that there is anyone else who could put a new firmware > onto your hard disk. But do try google though :) > > Best regards, > Andre > > > Robert L Cochran schrieb: >> I did indeed get two WD200BB-75DEA0 hard drives from an Ebay seller. >> After Googling for photos on how to replace the existing circuit >> board with a donor board and going out to Home Depot to buy a Torx >> screwdriver set in various sizes (I needed a T-8 size), I swapped in >> board #1 and plugged the hard drive into my test machine. The test >> machine, though, didn't detect ANY IDE devices, including the DVD >> drive. I spent too much time on that before moving to a second test >> machine. The BIOS on that machine paused for a long, long time and >> then issued a message stating it couldn't detect a hard drive, press >> F1 to continue. I did and I saw the following text listed for the >> primary IDE master: WD204BB >> >> I then removed the "patient" drive (the one I'm trying to rescue) and >> plugged in the second of the donor drives to see if it can be >> detected by the BIOS. This time there was no lengthy pause from the >> BIOS during POST and I saw the following text listed for the primary >> IDE master: WD200BB-75DEA0 which is what I would expect to see of a >> "live" Western Digital drive. >> >> I swapped in the circuit board of the second donor drive with the >> "patient" and got the same result: the text "WD204BB" displays as the >> primary master drive in the BIOS screen, and I get a BIOS warning >> that no hard drive is detected. >> >> Finally, I reinstalled the donor circuit board to the first donor >> drive and test it to make sure it is detected in BIOS. It is detected >> with the string WD200BB-75DEA0 as expected. Yes, lesson learned -- >> test the donor drives first before swapping boards. >> >> So it looks like circuit board replacement won't fix the hard drive >> of interest to me. Is there some other hardware I can replace such as >> the drive motor? Is this an operation requiring special tools and >> great skill? >> >> Thanks >> >> Bob Cochran >> >> Greenbelt, Maryland, USA >> >> >> Matt Smollinger wrote: >>> Yeah the WD200BB is sufficient. That 75DEA0 match is nice but not >>> required. >>> I wanna say that's firmware rev or board rev. Its probably also >>> possible to >>> get a WD200JB board to work, but I wouldn't try it. JB is their special >>> edition series with extra cache, but since this is a recovery >>> operation for >>> one, and two you don't know if it will really work, I'd try very >>> hard to >>> match exact models. >>> >>> Matt Smollinger >>> Application Engineer for Convergence Tech. >>> AdvancedAV ATG >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> From: Robert L Cochran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 19:25:05 -0400 >>>> To: Matt Smollinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 'g4u-help' <[email protected]> >>>> Subject: Re: [g4u-help] Rescue Older Western Digital WD200 (20 Gb) >>>> >>>> Thanks Matt and Brian. I'm looking into this really seriously. I >>>> notice >>>> that on this Western Digital drive, there is a printed box on the >>>> label >>>> with the model number (WD200BB-75DEA0), a date (25 Aug 2002) and a DCM >>>> code (HSBHNA2AA). Does the replacement circuit board have to come >>>> from a >>>> drive matching on all 3 of these things, or is a match on model number >>>> only sufficient? >>>> >>>> Do I need to match on the drive parameters as well (there is an LBA >>>> string printed on the label too as in "LBA 39062500"? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Bob Cochran >>>> >>>> >>>> Matt Smollinger wrote: >>>> >>>>> I've done similar to what Brian recommended with good success. If >>>>> the motor >>>>> is burnt out though, you may be out of luck, but buying used >>>>> drives and >>>>> swapping the whole electronics board works great. Just make sure >>>>> the models >>>>> match. >>>>> Matt Smollinger >>>>> Application Engineer for Convergence Tech. >>>>> AdvancedAV ATG >>>>> (m)610-304-1204 >>>>> (o)610-431-6174 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> From: Brian Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>> Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:32:09 -0500 >>>>>> To: 'g4u-help' <[email protected]> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [g4u-help] Rescue Older Western Digital WD200 (20 Gb) >>>>>> >>>>>> I've had very good success with purchasing used drives online as >>>>>> well as >>>>>> from ebay to fix similar problems. In many cases the problem is >>>>>> the circuit >>>>>> board and swaping it works fine. Generally there are only 4-5 >>>>>> torxhead >>>>>> screws to remove and the surface contacts between the board and >>>>>> the drive >>>>>> should match up even if if the used drive you buy has a slightly >>>>>> different >>>>>> board revision or has a different firmware version installed. A >>>>>> quick search >>>>>> on ebay found this sale showing a used WD200 drive for $0.01 >>>>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140159259848. >>>>>> This would >>>>>> be a whole lot cheaper than having a data recovery company >>>>>> extract the data >>>>>> for you. If it doesn't work, you're only out a few bucks. >>>>>> >>>>>> Brian >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>> Behalf Of Robert L Cochran >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 8:21 PM >>>>>> To: g4u-help >>>>>> Subject: [g4u-help] Rescue Older Western Digital WD200 (20 Gb) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> A friend's Western Digital WD200 drive crashed. The system BIOS >>>>>> does not >>>>>> see the drive. This means software won't see the drive either. It is >>>>>> like the drive motor has burned out or perhaps a voltage >>>>>> regulator has >>>>>> gone. My question is, does this type of drive failure indicate a >>>>>> possible bad circuit board part? Are there parts on the drive I >>>>>> might >>>>>> try replacing just to see if I can bring the drive to life just long >>>>>> enough to get the data off it? I have a small lab here and I'm >>>>>> able to >>>>>> solder surface mount and/or through-hole parts as needed. >>>>>> >>>>>> If a consensus emerges that this is a practical idea to try...my >>>>>> next >>>>>> question is can I get replacement circuit board components from the >>>>>> drive manufacturer? If not the manufacturer, what is a good >>>>>> alternate >>>>>> source? Mouser? Digi-Key? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> >>>>>> Bob Cochran >>>>>> Greenbelt, Maryland, USA >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >>>>>> Defy all challenges. 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