Feature Requests item #1043350, was opened at 2004-10-08 17:34 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by lschiere You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=350235&aid=1043350&group_id=235
Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: None Group: None >Status: Closed Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: dkratter (dkratter) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: Font Problems Initial Comment: The whole font settings part of Gaim for Windows really doesn't work well at all, as can be seen from all the font- related bug reports and my own personal issues. If, as the Win32 FAQ says, the "proper" way to change font settings in Gaim is to modify gtkrc (which is so counter- intuitive and not very Windows-like in any way), why is there a "Message Text" section in the Preferences that lets you change font settings? Gaim should be using whatever the user sets in the Preferences, and remembering it between sessions. Also, why are Gaim's font sizes completely inaccurate? What it considers to be Verdana 8 turns out to be more like Verdana 12. If I make the font so small in Gaim as to be just about unreadable, it comes out the proper size to everyone else on their clients. Gaim is a good, simple, clean IM client, but I think it needs a lot of work in the font department, specifically on the Windows side. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Luke Schierer (lschiere) Date: 2007-04-12 12:17 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=28833 Originator: NO As we are closing this tracker, please submit any feature request that is still valid to http://developer.pidgin.im. Thanks. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Luke Schierer (lschiere) Date: 2004-10-10 10:55 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=28833 can't do that, that's what relative means. it'd be +0 to _their_ default font size. to do what you want, we'd need to be able to guess what default font size they are using (we can't) and then send a size relative to that (which might be different from what it is relative to you). *shrugs* one of the inherent limitations of using html for formatting, you see the same thing in web pages, they don't always look exactly the same on two different computers. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: dkratter (dkratter) Date: 2004-10-10 09:55 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1124666 Assuming I understand you correctly... How about an option to force a relative font size of +0 so that your outgoing messages match, on the other person's end, exactly what your gtkrc says? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Luke Schierer (lschiere) Date: 2004-10-09 20:52 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=28833 the font size selector in the font face dialog is there only because we don't know how to get a font face dialog without one; it isn't used. those are used to format _outgoing_ text, while the gtkrc provides the default formatting, including the base font size, for everything. most of the protocols (yahoo being the exception) use relative font sizing, that is they tell us "font size="-1" or "font size="+1" with no indication of what the base size is. in fact, it differs based on the preferences in winaim (again, for example). gaim only uses the relative font sizing (set with the font increase and decrease buttons on the toolbar), consistent with the protocols, and scales it up and down from that base size in your gtk theme. gaim IS a gtk application, not a win32 application. its on win32 because people demanded it, and finally someone (herman) stepped forward to help with porting it, but we do NOT use the win32 toolkit, and it is rather stupid to expect us to conform to win32's ideas when our native platform, and most of our user base, is unix, and expect gaim to act like a unix application. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: dkratter (dkratter) Date: 2004-10-08 19:05 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1124666 Hopefully someone who can read and think will respond instead, preferrably someone without an attitude? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: dkratter (dkratter) Date: 2004-10-08 19:04 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1124666 Hopefully someone who can read and think will respond instead, preferrably someone without an attitude? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Manuel Amador (Rudd-O) (rudd-o) Date: 2004-10-08 18:55 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=150358 says, the "proper" way to change font settings in Gaim is to modify gtkrc (which is so counter- intuitive and not very Windows-like in any way), why is there a "Message Text" section in the Preferences that lets you change font settings? It's because that changes the default MESSAGE TEXT font. Try paying a little more attention. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=350235&aid=1043350&group_id=235 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV _______________________________________________ Gaim-features mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gaim-features
