On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 7:02 PM, Greg Von Kuster <g...@bx.psu.edu> wrote:
> Hi Peter,
> Missing test components implies a tool config that does not define a
> test (i.e, a missing test definition) or a tool config that defines a test,
> but the test's input or output files are missing from the repository.

This seems to be our point of confusion: I don't understand combining
these two categories - it seems unhelpful to me.

Tools missing a test definition clearly can't be tested - but since we'd
like every tool to have tests having this as an easily view listing is
useful both for authors and reviewers. It highlights tools which need
some work - or in some cases work on the Galaxy test framework itself.
They are neither passing nor failing tests - and it makes sense to list
them separately.

Tools with a test definition should be tested - if they are missing an
input or output file this is just a special case of a test failure (and can
be spotted without actually attempting to run the tool). This is clearly
a broken test and the tool author should be able to fix this easily (by
uploading the missing test data file)

> I don't see the benefit of the above where you place tools missing tests
> into a different category than tools with defined tests, but missing test 
> data.
> If any of the test components (test definition or required input or output 
> files)
> are missing, then the test cannot be executed, so defining it as a failing
> test in either case is a bit misleading.  It is actually a tool that is 
> missing
> test components that are required for execution which will result in a pass
> / fail status.

It is still a failing test (just for the trivial reason of missing a
test data file).

> It would be much simpler to change the filter for failing tests to include
> those that are missing test components so that the list of missing test
> components is a subset of the list of failing tests.

What I would like is three lists:

Latest revision: missing tool tests
 - repositories where at least 1 tool has no test defined

[The medium term TO-DO list for the Tool Author]

Latest revision: failing tool tests
 - repositories where at least 1 tool has a failing test (where I include
   tests missing their input or output test data files)

[The priority TO-DO list for the Tool Author]

Latest revision: all tool tests pass
 - repositories where every tool has tests and they all pass

[The good list, Tool Authors should aim to have everything here]

Right now http://testtoolshed.g2.bx.psu.edu/view/peterjc/ncbi_blast_plus
would appear under both "missing tool tests" and "failing tool tests",
but I hope to fix this and have this under "missing tool tests" only
(until my current roadblocks with the Galaxy Test Framework are

I hope I've managed a clearer explanation this time,


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