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John,

I've been using the dynamic jobs and they've been working beautifully!
(For context, I wrote the initial revision of the Access Control page
based off of my readings and experiences setting it up in galaxy).

I, for one, would be in favour of "stronger" filters in addition to the
current versions of filtering, mostly due to my/IT's paranoid nature :)
The current filters seem to accomplish exactly what they were designed
to, and I see no reason to replace them.

On 12/17/2013 06:15 PM, John Chilton wrote:
> Agreed with Dannon, it is a bug that they are showing up in the workflow
> editor but in general toolbox filters are not meant as a security
mechanism.
>
> You can block access to running specific tools (filtered or not) using
> dynamic job destinations. (Under dynamic job destinations documentation (
>
https://wiki.galaxyproject.org/Admin/Config/Jobs#Dynamic_Destination_Mapping)
> there is an example of enforcing "dev" only tools for a specific set of
> e-mails as well as an example of how to get a list of admin users in a
> dynamic job destination. These could be combined to enforce admin only
> tools. I think there has been some other posts on this topic... )
>
> It is true that one can still see the options of such tools, this is
> something we will have to think about... Perhaps a 'stronger' filter,
> though I think this variant of filtering should still be an option, there
> are many use cases for allowing users to run tools they cannot see.
>
> -John
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Dannon Baker
<dannon.ba...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> This sounds like a bug; the primary toolbox and workflow editor toolbox
>> should reflect the same set of tools (exception being workflow-specific
>> control steps, etc).  I've created a trello card to track this issue
here:
>> https://trello.com/c/3TxFHkYR
>>
>> That said, do note the warning on the dynamic toolbox filters page:
>>
>> [image: <!>]  Filters will only hide Tools from the User Interface, they
>> are still available and can be made visible by means of HTML
manipulation.
>> That said these feature is not a security feature, it is intended to
>> separate multiple groups of Tools and simplify the
ToolBox<https://wiki.galaxyproject.org/ToolBox>
>> .
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Eric Rasche
<rasche.e...@yandex.ru>wrote:
>>
>>>  I'm running the stable copy of galaxy and noticed that some custom,
>>> administrative tools (and otherwise tools which should be restricted in
>>> access due to licensing/etc.) were showing up in normal user's toolboxes
>>> inside the workflow editor.
>>>
>>> I feel that this is a bug, as the tool filters should be applied
globally
>>> and not just in terms of what tools users are restricted from seeing  in
>>> the normal toolbox.
>>>
>>> For me, this presents a problem as I strongly believe any administrative
>>> tools that exist should leak as little information as possible--not
their
>>> entire set of options and associated documentation. Additionally,
that sort
>>> of information leakage isn't acceptable by my organisation's policies.
>>>
>>> Do I have my instance misconfigured or is this an actual bug?
>>> I have my galaxy configured according to
>>> https://wiki.galaxyproject.org/Admin/Config/Access%20Control
>>>
>>> $ hg head
>>> changeset:   11242:9d4cbf2a1c13
>>> branch:      stable
>>> tag:         tip
>>> user:        Nate Coraor <n...@bx.psu.edu> <n...@bx.psu.edu>
>>> date:        Fri Dec 06 16:28:31 2013 -0500
>>> summary:     Add missing destination long arg to cli runner's Torque
>>> plugin and fix an incorrectly used PBS option in the sample job conf.
>>>
>>> changeset:   11216:c458a0fe1ba8
>>> parent:      11213:6d633418ecfa
>>> parent:      11215:f79149dd3d35
>>> user:        Nate Coraor <n...@bx.psu.edu> <n...@bx.psu.edu>
>>> date:        Mon Nov 04 14:56:57 2013 -0500
>>> summary:     Merge security fix for filtering tools from
>>> stable/next-stable.
>>>
>>> $ hg summary
>>> parent: 11242:9d4cbf2a1c13 tip
>>>  Add missing destination long arg to cli runner's Torque plugin and fix
>>> an incorrectly used PBS option in the sample job conf.
>>> branch: stable
>>> commit: 4 modified, 34 unknown
>>> update: (current)
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> Eric Rasche
>>>
>>> Programmer II
>>> Center for Phage Technology
>>> Texas A&M University
>>>
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University College Station, TX 77843 404-692-2048 e...@tamu.edu
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