OK, seems that there is no working version of Gambas2 in Ubuntu repository.
I have no clue what is going on...

Jussi



On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 10:40 AM, jm <j...@martindale-electric.co.uk> wrote:

> Jussi,
>
> Finally some difference!
>
>
>         miniand@miniand:~$ cd /usr/bin
>         miniand@miniand:/usr/bin$ ls -l gam*
>         lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      14 Dec  6  2011 gambas2 ->
>         gambas2.gambas
>         -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  427530 Dec  6  2011
>         gambas2-database-manager.gambas
>         -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2372105 Dec  6  2011 gambas2.gambas
>         -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root    5600 Dec  5  2011 gamma4scanimage
>         miniand@miniand:/usr/bin$ whereis gbr2
>         gbr2: /usr/bin/gbr2 /usr/bin/X11/gbr2 /usr/share/man/man1/gbr2.1.gz
>         miniand@miniand:/usr/bin$ gdb gbr2
>         GNU gdb (Ubuntu/Linaro 7.4-2012.02-0ubuntu2) 7.4-2012.02
>         Copyright (C) 2012 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
>         License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later
>         <http://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html>
>         This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute
>         it.
>         There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.  Type
>         "show copying"
>         and "show warranty" for details.
>         This GDB was configured as "arm-linux-gnueabi".
>         For bug reporting instructions, please see:
>         <http://bugs.launchpad.net/gdb-linaro/>...
>         Reading symbols from /usr/bin/gbr2...(no debugging symbols
>         found)...done.
>         (gdb) set args /usr/bin/gambas2
>         (gdb) run
>         Starting program: /usr/bin/gbr2 /usr/bin/gambas2
>         [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]
>         Using host libthread_db library
>         "/lib/arm-linux-gnueabi/libthread_db.so.1".
>         ERROR: #49: Not a directory: /usr/bin/gambas2/.project
>         [Inferior 1 (process 1145) exited with code 01]
>         (gdb) bt
>         No stack.
>         (gdb) ^CQuit
>         (gdb) bt
>         No stack.
>         (gdb) quit
>         miniand@miniand:/usr/bin$
>
>
> On Thu, 2012-09-20 at 18:45 +0300, Jussi Lahtinen wrote:
> > Try;
> > set args /usr/bin/gambas2
> >
> > Jussi
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 6:41 PM, jm <j...@martindale-electric.co.uk>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Sorry Jussi,
> > > same result:
> > >
> > >
> > > miniand@miniand:~$ cd /usr/bin
> > > miniand@miniand:/usr/bin$ ls gam*
> > > gambas2  gambas2-database-manager.gambas  gambas2.gambas
> > > gamma4scanimage
> > > miniand@miniand:/usr/bin$ whereis gbr2
> > > gbr2: /usr/bin/gbr2 /usr/bin/X11/gbr2 /usr/share/man/man1/gbr2.1.gz
> > > miniand@miniand:/usr/bin$ gdb gbr2
> > > GNU gdb (Ubuntu/Linaro 7.4-2012.02-0ubuntu2) 7.4-2012.02
> > > Copyright (C) 2012 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
> > > License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later
> > > <http://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html>
> > > This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it.
> > > There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.  Type "show
> > > copying"
> > > and "show warranty" for details.
> > > This GDB was configured as "arm-linux-gnueabi".
> > > For bug reporting instructions, please see:
> > > <http://bugs.launchpad.net/gdb-linaro/>...
> > > Reading symbols from /usr/bin/gbr2...(no debugging symbols
> > > found)...done.
> > > (gdb) set args /usr/bin
> > > (gdb) run
> > > Starting program: /usr/bin/gbr2 /usr/bin
> > > [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]
> > > Using host libthread_db library
> > > "/lib/arm-linux-gnueabi/libthread_db.so.1".
> > > ERROR: #45: File or directory does not exist
> > > [Inferior 1 (process 1074) exited with code 01]
> > > (gdb) bt
> > > No stack.
> > > (gdb) ^CQuit
> > > (gdb) bt
> > > No stack.
> > > (gdb) quit
> > > miniand@miniand:/usr/bin$
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, 2012-09-20 at 18:18 +0300, Jussi Lahtinen wrote:
> > > > Please do exactly what I told, and send results.
> > > >
> > > > Jussi
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 5:57 PM, jm <j...@martindale-electric.co.uk>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Jussi,
> > > > >
> > > > > Just to re-iterate - I tried numerous different options
> > > > > including gbx gbr running compiled pre-made serial port
> > > > > sample, with and without project files, command line
> > > > > etc. etc. all have same result.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, 2012-09-20 at 17:37 +0300, Jussi Lahtinen wrote:
> > > > > > You tried to launch Gambas executable with gbx, for that you
> need to
> > > use
> > > > > > gbr.
> > > > > > gbx is for running source code or evaluating, not for
> executables.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jussi
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 2:44 PM, jm <
> j...@martindale-electric.co.uk>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, 2012-09-19 at 18:21 +0300, Jussi Lahtinen wrote:
> > > > > > > > Or here is something you could do:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > gdb gbr3
> > > > > > > > set args /usr/local/bin/gambas3 (or what ever is your install
> > > path)
> > > > > > > > run
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You may need to kill the process with Ctrl + c in debugger.
> > > > > > > > Then with bt, you will get backtrace.
> > > > > > > > Send it here, so we can see what is happening.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Jussi
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > (gdb) run
> > > > > > > Starting program: /usr/bin/gbx2
> > > > > > > [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]
> > > > > > > Using host libthread_db library
> > > > > > > "/lib/arm-linux-gnueabi/libthread_db.so.1".
> > > > > > > ERROR: #45: File or directory does not exist
> > > > > > > [Inferior 1 (process 12262) exited with code 01]
> > > > > > > (gdb)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > bt gives the message no stack.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > (I tried many different ways of running gdb and all give
> > > > > > > same answer as above - including set args)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > hmm.. not sure which file or directory its looking for.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 6:13 PM, Jussi Lahtinen <
> > > > > > > jussi.lahti...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > gambas3 is just program made with Gambas, if it is in
> infinite
> > > > > loop,
> > > > > > > > > interpreter cannot know about it.
> > > > > > > > > It just does what it is commanded to do. Just like in any
> other
> > > > > > > > > programming language.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Try to run something else to see whether anything works.
> > > > > > > > > gbx3 is Gambas interpreter executable, and gbr3 is for
> > > executing
> > > > > Gambas
> > > > > > > > > executables like gambas3.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > What example "gbx3 --help" says?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Jussi
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 3:57 PM, jm <
> > > > > j...@martindale-electric.co.uk
> > > > > > > >wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> On Wed, 2012-09-19 at 14:03 +0200, Benoît Minisini wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> > Le 19/09/2012 13:55, jm a écrit :
> > > > > > > > >> > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > > >> > > Gambas runs on Linux and I was just wondering if it
> can do
> > > > > more
> > > > > > > > >> > > with regards to error messages when it is run.
> > > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > > >> > > I've got a MK802 with A10 ARM running Lubuntu.
> > > > > > > > >> > > Gambas2 seems to download and install from repository.
> > > > > > > > >> > > When run nothing happens.
> > > > > > > > >> > > When run from command line it does nothing.
> > > > > > > > >> > > (Reading raspberry pi forums where they use ARM and
> have
> > > > > gambas
> > > > > > > > >> working,
> > > > > > > > >> > >   this type of error is down to missing libs.)
> > > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > > >> > > Doing "gambas2 --help" does nothing.
> > > > > > > > >> > > (Doing "gambas3 --help" doesn't do conventional help
> > > > > > > > >> > > message on Ubuntu Linux.)
> > > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > > >> > > I was just wondering if it is possible to make gambas
> > > > > > > > >> > > behave more like other applications so that its
> command
> > > > > > > > >> > > line responses are more in line with expectations
> > > > > > > > >> > > in a Linux environment.
> > > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > > >> > > e.g.
> > > > > > > > >> > > gambas3 --help : generate command line options
> > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > >> > That's possible, even if gambas3 has no command line
> > > options.
> > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > >> > > gambas3 -v [project] : puts gambas into verbose mode
> that
> > > > > > > > >> > > prints a message before checking for a dependent lib
> > > > > > > > >> > > so that if it crashed a meaningful guess can be made
> as to
> > > > > > > > >> > > where to look for a fix.
> > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > >> > There I don't understand : gambas3 is the IDE, it is a
> GUI
> > > > > program.
> > > > > > > If
> > > > > > > > >> > you have missing libs, gambas3 is not compiled. And if
> it
> > > is,
> > > > > you
> > > > > > > will
> > > > > > > > >> > have error messages on the command line when running it.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Strange - no error messages at all.
> > > > > > > > >> When I run gambas2 from command line, nothing happens as
> in
> > > the
> > > > > > > command
> > > > > > > > >> line is completely frozen probably in an infinite loop and
> > > unable
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > > >> show an IDE or output an error message. So it would be
> good if
> > > > > > > > >> for example gambas started with a message like
> "initialising"
> > > when
> > > > > > > > >> a parameter like -v for verbose is used
> > > > > > > > >> so that at least we know that part has worked.
> > > > > > > > >> (Emitting even more detailed message such as which buttons
> > > were
> > > > > > > > >> pressed with a parameter  "-v2 level" where level is a
> number
> > > is
> > > > > > > another
> > > > > > > > >> desirable option. Increasing level of reporting can
> quickly
> > > find
> > > > > more
> > > > > > > > >> complex faults - such as infinite event loops. I know
> many of
> > > > > these
> > > > > > > > >> messages are reported to IDE, but there should be an
> option to
> > > > > get it
> > > > > > > > >> reported to the console - that is the Linux/Unix way - the
> > > > > console and
> > > > > > > > >> command line is king - even for a GUI IDE. Driving the IDE
> > > should
> > > > > also
> > > > > > > > >> be command line driven. e.g. options to compile gambas
> > > programs
> > > > > should
> > > > > > > > >> be available as standard from command line options for
> example
> > > > > without
> > > > > > > > >> need for IDE to kick into life.)
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> I had a Genesi smartbook that did the same freeze thing on
> > > their
> > > > > > > Ubuntu
> > > > > > > > >> distro. At the time I didn't need to go forward with it,
> so I
> > > > > dropped
> > > > > > > > >> investigating. The MK802 however I must get going because
> the
> > > plan
> > > > > > > > >> for now is to use OpenBox as the window manager and
> Gambas as
> > > the
> > > > > main
> > > > > > > > >> application.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> No doubt I will be trying to compile gambas3 soon for
> MK802
> > > > > > > > >> and sort it somehow. In the mean time I thought I make the
> > > > > suggestion
> > > > > > > > >> for improved command line options - noting that gambas
> does
> > > not
> > > > > appear
> > > > > > > > >> to have many options.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> >  If you try to
> > > > > > > > >> > open a project which need components that are not
> install,
> > > you
> > > > > will
> > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > >> > errors message boxes.
> > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > >> > So maybe you should try to give more details on how you
> > > > > installed
> > > > > > > gambas
> > > > > > > > >> > on your system, and more details on your system
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Gambas2 downloaded from the default repository of Lubuntu
> > > 12.04
> > > > > > > > >> that came with the distro, by using synaptic.
> > > > > > > > >> That would point the finger at the maintainers there but
> as
> > > its
> > > > > old
> > > > > > > > >> its not worth pursuing. I'll probably try to compile
> gambas3.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> >  (no idea what a MK802
> > > > > > > > >> > is...). ARM systems are quite different.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> It is the rage in ARMs at the moment - full ARM computer
> on a
> > > USB
> > > > > > > stick:
> > > > > > > > >>
> https://www.miniand.com/products/MK802%20Android%20Mini%20PC
> > > > > > > > >> (around $50 on ebay)
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > >> > Regards,
> > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>
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