G'day Matti: I don't have a success story to report yet, but I have not been idle and thought I should report. I spent quite some time looking at that 'versions' tab. Couldn't actually do anything with it until later today when I realised that only some packages had alternate versions from which to choose. Couldn't install/choose either a complete set of gambas 3.5.1 or 3.4.1. I removed and reinstalled gambas3 from the 'Education' repo - after removing the munix9 repo) and got all 3.4.1, but the last four (incl v4l and examples, as I recall) would not install because of missing dependencies. Then I locked all the installed packages and tried to reinstate the munix9 to see if the remaining four 3.5 packages helped. That's where i got stuck for a while - feeling stupid again - because I had not written down the exact name and URL of the munix9 repo. Finaloly got it to work, but the 3.5 versions also had missing dependencies
Gave that a rest in the meantime and tried Mint 13 'maya', as I had some guidance to getting gambas3 from Willy Raets 'How to gambas'. However, during gambas3 install, I kept getting an error "E" about "no space left on device to write". Got a headache and left it! Tonight I had another idea and made an iso image file from my SUSE 12.2 DVD, then burned another DVD so as to have a spare. I then removed the existing SUSE OS from within my VMWare player and started afresh with this spare DVD (should make absolutely no difference, but I have an impression that some small ones resulted - like being able to expand the KDE panel to full screen, which I could not do before, no matter how I fiddled - no matter). I wanted to start afresh after all my messing around with repos and packages. However, bearing in mind that, before installing gambas, it is desirable to update the OS, I once more found that (being a fresh install), it did not have an update repo entry under Yast. So I found some instructions on the net (on 'howtoforge.com) and used zypper to add a repo, refresh and update. To my surprise the compueter has spent an hour doing just that! I don't recall adding an update repo before and I suspect it only looked at the DVD when I asked for an update. All sorts of 586 packages were downloaded and installed. This may make a difference! It's late again and I may leave trying to install gambas until the morning. However, one more thing: In surfing around, I came across this URL: http://www.traffictool.net/vmware/opensuse122.html . Now, this looks very interesting. I am new to using virtual machines. I installed VM Player and assumed that, in order to install a virtual OS like Linux, I just installed under VM Player (as it asks me to) a normal distro. However, this 'Traffic Tool' site has specific downloads for various Linux versions specifically for VM Player! Why I wonder? This also might make a difference? I will test it out in the next few days. Stand by! regards from Tasmania Carl At 04:45 AM 2/12/2013, you wrote: >G'day Carl, > >something seems to be wrong in both of our repositories. >I looked at my gambas (didn't use it for quite a while) and saw that >it is 3.4.1! >Then looked into YaSt to see why it was not updated automatically. >Most of the components in the repository are 3.5.1, but some (e.g. >gb.gui) are 3.4.1. >Trying to update gambas results in a lot of dependency-conflict >messages between 3.4 and 3.5. > >So, I keep the old version until the repo is fixed. >Your problems obviously come from this version-mix. >I think you should open YaSt and set all the components back to >3.4.1. There is a 'versions' tab where you can choose. >Then just wait... > >By the way: How to find out who is maintaining a repo? Would be >great to send them a mail that something is wrong. >Matti > >Am 30.11.2013 23:40, schrieb Carl Nilsson: > > G'day Matti: > > Now I'm getting confused again! Is not the repository you refer to > > a repository only for the opemSUSE? I have assumed my openSUSE 12.2 > > is working fine, but it is the gambas install that gives me > > problems. The openSUSE 12.2 I actually have comes from a > > store-boughten DVD set put out by (I think) UnixAcademy.com. Seems > > to go on just fine. I use the KDE gui. Reason I'm trying to stick > > with it is that I bought some moderately expensive books on SUSE > > Linux for those long winter nights (that have just > > passed). Yesterday i removed the troublesome gambas 3.5 install and > > tried again, but munix9 is the only repo that I know that gives me > > something approaching a "one-line" install. Once again, I had > > trouble with four packages (including the examples) with missing > > dependencies. I couldn't initially install gambas-gb-v4l because of > > missing -tools and needing tv-common; examples needed libmlib2.so.1 > > etc. However, I played around with trying to install those packages > > one by one and finally they did install with no complaints about > > dependencies. Now all the packages are installed (white ticks on a > > black background for all of them) at the gambas 3.5.1 -2.5 level > > except for gb-gui, gb-maps and script which are at the 3.4.1-2.29 > > level. I don't know if that is a problem? > > The fact that I got gambas 3.5 (whether I wanted it or not) from > > munix9 suggests that somebody is working and trying to keep it up to date. > > Now my examples show in gambas 3.5.1, but I still have problems. > > > > When I start gambas 3.5.1 I get my "tip of the day" and "recent > > projects". If I go to examples, like "dragNdrop", the project opens > > and I get a "project is read only" notice. Fair enough! I just get a > > mottled grey screen on the right. Under the project "sources", if I > > left click "FDragNdrop", nothing happens (I need to refresh my memory > > on these operations with gambas). If I right click it, I immediately > > get a fatal error, namely: [2] cannot load class "_Gui': > > FMain.tvwProject_Menu.257 - and automatically exit from gambas. All > > the examples I have tried act similarly. > > > > Now, I can't help wondering if this error is related to the fact that > > gb-gui is installed at the 3.4 level, whereas most of gambas is > > installed at 3.5 level? So far as I'm aware (not very far!), munix9 > > did not give me the option of installing at the 3.4 level. It's > > possible that this gambas install can be retrieved quite simply by > > installing a different package - I don't know and I await advice. > > > > I recall that (as I said in my post last September 2012) I did get an > > earlier gambas3 successfully installed under a real installation of > > SUSE 10 on an older machine, so one way or another, I should be able > > to get it going under SUSE 12.2. My (real paper) reference books are > > all about SUSE 10 and 11, but I expect are still reasonably good for > > SUSE 12. They are my real monetary investment that I'm trying to > > save. In addition, although I'm struggling, this is a learning > > process about real-world Linux - but not getting me far into gambas, > > which is where i really want to spend my time. I appreciate any > > assist you can provide at this stage. > > > > In the meantime, I have downloaded Mint 13 "Maya" and will try > > installing that tonight under VMPlayer. I saw and downloaded Willy > > Raets ebook "how to Gambas" which gives an installing path for that > > version of Linux - which might produce an interesting comparison for me. > > > > Thank you for your continued interest. > > Carl > > > > At 10:41 AM 30/11/2013, you wrote: > >> Hi Carl, > >> > >> I don't know if this munix9.rpm is still working and up to date. > >> Right now, I can recommend (for 12.3) the repository > >> http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Education/openSUSE_12.3/ > >> Somebody is doing a good job there, and each stable version seems to > >> be complete. > >> Regards, Matti > >> > >> Am 29.11.2013 12:42, schrieb Carl Nilsson: > >>> G'day again: > >>> To my (slight) embarrassment, I see that I asked the same question > >>> fourteen months ago (27-28 Sep 2012) and got pointed in the correct > >>> direction by Matti - and so got gambas 3.2 with its' examples running > >>> on openSUSE 12.2 . Guess that's what you expect from Seniors like > >>> me. Amazing how time flies when you are busy on other things - not > >>> to mention the memory! Anyway, I'll follow that path again and > >>> apologise for taking up your email space. (Just as well I subscribe > >>> on the gambas-user list and keep the emails!). > >>> Carl > >>> > >>> At 01:38 PM 29/11/2013, you wrote: > >>>> G'day: > >>>> I have installed gambas 3.5.1 from munix9 rpm running under openSUSE > >>>> 12.2 on a Virtual Machine (VMWare Player) on a Win 7 32 bit > >>>> desktop. gambas seems fine, but there are no examples. ...(snip) > >>>> Regards Carl > >>>> > >>>> Carl S Nilsson > >>>> 137 Gordons Hill Road > >>>> Lindisfarne, Tas. > >>>> Australia 7015 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>>> Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT > >>>> organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance > >>>> affects their revenue. 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