Hi,
thank you for responding. Phil also gave me your instructions earlier today, 
but I also tried again and still no luck.
For whatever reason , I can't seem to get it to work.
"Afraid" of shockwave is not the word I would use right now concerning my 
feelings toward that particular technology. But most likely it is me or my 
computer or whatever  that is the problem.

thanks anyway for trying ,
allan
Come to me and I will give you rest...
Jesus of nazareth 33 AD
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "AudioGames.net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 5:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] sudoku strikeout


> Hi,
>
> It's really not so problematic. Here's the EXTREME short version:
>
> 1) load the webpage+game in your browser (which automatically puts the 
> focus
> on the game)
> 2) unload your screenreader (which will accidentally remove the focus from
> the game)
> 3) press [F5] to reload the browser+game+webpage (which automatically puts
> the focus back on the game again)
>
> Now the focus should be on the game and you can play :)
> Millions of people play Shockwave games everyday and although only a tiny
> tiny tiny tiny group of people use extra software like screenreaders,
> there's no reason why you can't play a Shockwave (or Flash for that 
> matter)
> game... several people with a physical disability have problems with the
> focus too and they also use [F5] to get the focus on the game. Please do 
> not
> be afraid of Shockwave just because you haven't used it before.
>
> Greets,
>
> Richard
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "allan thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 10:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] sudoku strikeout
>
>
>> Hi Phil,
>> Thanks for shareing that. I will check it out and see how it comes along.
>> Is all of those shockwave type games so problamatic? Or perhaps I should
>> say, is Jaws always problamatic with shockwave. I wonder if someone 
>> wrote
>> scripts for it if it would do any better?
>> Anyway, thanks again
>> allan
>>
>> Come to me and I will give you rest...
>> Jesus of nazareth 33 AD
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Phil Vlasak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 1:57 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] sudoku strikeout
>>
>>
>>> Hi Allan,
>>> I sent these instructions a while ago and got an answer from Richard
>>> about
>>> the focus problem for JFW.
>>>
>>> blind-accessible Sudoku!
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Richard,
>>>> I am embarrassed to realize that shock wave and flash aare not the 
>>>> same.
>>>> So I went to the MacroMedia site and tried their installer with the 
>>>> same
>>>> bad
>>>> result.
>>>> But they have an alternate version!
>>>>
>>>> It downloads to your computer where you open it and can install it from
>>>> there.
>>>> It worked somewhat.
>>>> I was able to start your Sudoku  shockwave game but found I could hear
>>>> the
>>>> opening music and voice of the Sudoku game but could not play it since
>>>> the
>>>> arrow keys or enter key did not respond as the instructions said they
>>>> would.
>>>> I also tried unloading JFW
>>>> Here is the link to the other version:
>>>> http://sdc.shockwave.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=Shockwave&P2_Platform=Win32&P3_Browser_Version=NetscapePre4
>>>> It put the file,
>>>> Shockwave_Installer_Slim.exe
>>>> on my computer.
>>>>Phil
>>>
>>> Basically it seems you have everything up and running to play Sudo-San,
>>> the
>>> only problem is the focus. When the html-site loads we set the focus on
>>> the
>>> game. Whenever you visit another webpage, program, whatever during or
>>> after
>>> loading, the focus is removed. In some browsers you can simply [tab] to
>>> put
>>> the focus back on the game (by pressing the tab-key) but this is not
>>> supported in all browsers/browser versions. By turning off your
>>> screenreader
>>> you also run the risk of losing the focus. I can't really give any
>>> guidelines or criteria for what's the best way of unloading your
>>> screenreader while keeping the focus. However, what you can try is this:
>>>
>>> - click the link to play Sudo'-San (a new page with the game will now
>>> start
>>> loading)
>>> - unload your screenreader and simply wait untill the game loades
>>> - when you hear the game it means it is loaded properly. After the
>>> Gong-sound you can start pressing buttons. I suggest pressing the cursor
>>> keys :)
>>> - if you hear sounds of interaction, the focus is on the game and you 
>>> can
>>> play.
>>> - if you DON'T hear sounds of interaction, the focus is not on the game
>>> (either because of the unloading of the screenreader, an older browser 
>>> or
>>> something else). In this case, press F4 to reload the page. The page
>>> should
>>> reload now (and if your cache is large enough, the game will be started
>>> from
>>> the copy in the cache instead of reloading from the website again) and
>>> the
>>> focus should be set to the game again. Since you touch any other 
>>> programs
>>> this should do the trick....
>>>
>>> If it doesn't I suggest trying a different browser just to test... 
>>> Sander
>>> and I each have exactly the same computer, internet connection and
>>> browsers
>>> installed (same versions too) and somehow I do not have an automatic
>>> focus
>>> on the game in Firefox and Sander does...
>>> Richard
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "allan thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 1:39 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] sudoku strikeout
>>>
>>>
>>>> Well, that didn't work. I  am just going to wait for  spoonbill's game
>>>> and
>>>> see if that works for me.
>>>> thanks anyway,
>>>> allan
>>>
>>>
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