both me and Raul have. I don't think either of us have gotten any responses yet.
----- Original Message ----- From: "kevin and emma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 2:46 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blaytont Forgery regarding Ivan > we've had kids on here for years, none of them have sunk as low as that to > my knowledge. kid or not, there's no excuse for cheating, lying ... well > you > get the idea! and the quotes system crash, seems just a tad too convenient > for my liking! > we don't need people like ivan and his behaviour in the gamers community. > i > hope for his sake he learns a lesson. > has anyone actually approached him and told him of the suspicions re > copying > liams game? > Kevin - owner of the audyssey gamers discussion list at: > www.audyssey.org > contact me via email/msn: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Che" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 7:30 PM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blaytont Forgery regarding Ivan > > >> Ivan originally recorded that so called demo for me when he asked me to >> tell the blind gamers list here that his game was for real. >> I wasn't going to put my reputation on the line for him without solid >> proof that he was developing a game, but I was willing to help him out if > I >> could, if he were sincerely developing a game. >> I too took it into sound forge and restored it to full speed. >> I haven't played super liam, but I figured he had just ripped off > another >> game and recorded it as his own. >> When I asked him to send me his code section for the keyboard input, he >> went mysteriously silent until this afternoon. >> I received an email from him telling me his system had crashed > completely >> and he had lost everything. >> The message he sent me was a response to a message I had sent him > earlier >> yesterday, proving that he was lying once again about the crash. >> Like Thomas and Raul, I have been very patient with Ivan, trying to help >> him out and offer a little guidance in proper behavior, something he is >> obviously sorely lacking at home. >> No more. I am removing Ivan from the rail racer list and refunding his >> money for the beta. I want nothing more to do with him. >> This is sad, as he is really just a kid, but he is old enough to learn >> better, and simply refuses to do so. >> I hope he grows up someday, but I for one am done with him. >> Take care all. >> Che >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 12:20 PM >> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blaytont Forgery regarding Ivan >> >> >> > Hi, Raul and Liam. >> > When I heard the so-called trailor I was also quite offended at how it >> > was done. There is no doubt trying to steel someone elses work and make >> > it his own was bad enough. What is worse is I for one have been quite >> > open with folks and offer my advice, pointers, and have helped get >> > agdev-newbies started so we can add new developers to our comunity. >> > Instead Ivan chose not to learn to be a programmer, but attempted to >> > steel others work, and clame it was all his own doing. >> > Even more offensive was that Ivan had said he was going to give his >> > game >> > away for free at one time. If it would have really happened he not only >> > would be modifying Liam's game but would be redistributing licensed >> > copies of Super Liam for free which is about as bad as the Monkey >> > Business business we had on blind-gamers quite some time ago. >> > To be frank about it I don't understand why some people like Ivan have >> > to act the way they do. As a moderator I \gave him so many breaks, >> > coach >> > talks, etc to change his ways, etc and instead Ivan became inflamitory, >> > continued to lie to this comunity about his game, and apparently had no >> > respect for the list guidelines. >> > Well, I am getting down from my soapbox, and won't be discussing this >> > topic again as far as I know. >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Gamers mailing list .. [email protected] >> > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can >> > visit >> > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >> > any subscription changes via the web. >> > >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gamers mailing list .. 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