well till I started using nvda I realised how much others dolphin,
gwmicro jaws and the rest had relied on mostly their stuff and not
what was there.
Bar a few external libraries and modules nvda gets most of its info
from everything thats installed in the os.
Ok a few things that need intercepters and vertual mode don't work
like smuglers 4 and 5 and maybe a few other apps but if its web based
or has a link to ms controls it will attempt to read it.
99% of all apps work.
Even some custom controls it will attempt to read.
so you can use eudora 7 with it, not that well but you can.
At 03:13 AM 5/3/2013, you wrote:
Hi Dallas,
Not only that but the way Jaws does things aren't exactly the best way
to handle them. Take for instance the way it handles keyboard
commands. Jaws sets a low-level keyboard hook that intercepts keyboard
events, taking it away from the application and the operating system,
filters them through Jaws and passes them back to the application or
OS if it finds its not a Jaws command. Its very slow and inefficient,
and I am certain this is a very big reason Jaws users find something
like Windows 7 seems unresponsive. The reason is they have this very
resource intensive TSR application called Jaws intercepting each and
every single keyboard command, filtering through Jaws, and that causes
a performance lag.
Now, NVDA has a totally different way of handling that issue. NVDA
simply polls the operating system and receives keyboard events the
same as any other application. As a result if you press control+o in
Notepad the command is immediately dispatched to Notepad rather than
being routed through your screen reader first, and I've noticed that
everything is more responsive using NVDA.
Plus as you pointed out Jaws now has a bunch of old garbage that has
probably been there since 1.0 that is no longer strictly necessary.
Jaws has video intercept drivers which considering UI Automation .for
WPF type applications really has no use under Windows 7/Windows 8 any
more. So that and plenty of other things need to be removed and the
screen reader really could use some house cleaning so to speak.
Cheers!
On 5/2/13, Dallas O'Brien <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi. This is only one reason why I switch to NVDA, because of the
fact that I
> could not upgrade from my old version of Jaws. It was simply getting worse
> and worse, with me on one version, and every six months to 12 months, a new
> version comes out with new abilities, and guess what! I can't use them.
> This is why I gave up on Jaws, in terms of a home user Situation.
> I can have versions of NVDA, as up-to-date, as yesterday's code.
> LOL.
> I understand however, that there are people that don't want to change, from
> Jaws, but Berin mind, that a lot of your Windows 7 problems, may in fact
> have been Jaws, not Windows 7.
> Even when I change from windows XP, to Windows 7, I had a fact bought a
> completely new Windows 7 laptop, and put Jaws on it, and guess what. It ran
> slower.
> And mind you, the laptop I bought with Windows 7 on it, was our whole lot
> more powerful than my XP machine ever was. It had three times the RAM, and
> at least two times the processor power. But as soon as I got rid of Jaws,
> and used NVDA completely, it ran as fast, as three of my old XP
machines put
> together. LOL.
> Personally, I think that if Freedom scientific stripped jaws down, and
> redesigned it for more modern systems, much like Microsoft has done with
> windows 8 and it's background code, I'd guess that Jaws would be
a whole lot
> better, and more responsive. I think a lot of the problem with
Jaws, is that
> it hasn't been stripped down, and a lot of code has simply built up with
> buggy versions, on top of buggy versions. So now you have too much that's
> conflicting, and causing problems. Much like windows used to do. But now
> that Microsoft has redesigned windows 8 from the ground up, and
stripped out
> a lot of old code, and rubbish that was no longer needed, it runs like a
> dream.
>
> Regards:
> Dallas
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