the besst game ever and sad I have not been on as much as I would like

On 10/23/13, shaun everiss <[email protected]> wrote:
> I aggree with you tom I wouldn't do what I said either but I  feel
> like doing so I can't imagine what aprone went through.
> Yesterday I had a simular situation.
> A program I was testing and designing sfx for had a major change that
> basically left all my work potentually gone for good and dead as its
> plot had changed some what.
> This happened with out warning though I know quite well that while in
> testing things change without notice usually.
> It was just I had set things up and such.
> I knew, that I couldn't at least without turning the game into a joky
> piece of crap and at any rate I did not have the will to bother.
> I did change enough of the stuff I could change, so that, things
> could sound at least for me a bit more like the theme.
> As it was it did not quite happen, the dev was happy with my work
> though one of my atmosphere changes did make it into the game,
> replacing one of the tother sounds.
> I was just going ahead and wishing I had known earlier though to be
> honest it was not all the devs fault I was in such a bad mode that day.
> The night previous, one of the power boxes that has all my
> electronics on it decided to explode just as I was thinking about
> powering down.
> I was not moving things round the hard drives or was doing anything
> crazy which would have sertainly done dammage, but still it was bad
> as I thought one of my drives had died.
> I managed to replace the box with a temperary solution but it still
> took me half of the next day to remove the old box, put in the new
> one and reset all the power.
> However thanks to batteries in the laptop and the serge protecters, I
> did not loose any equipment.
>
> At 11:36 AM 10/23/2013, you wrote:
>>Hi Thomas, I totally agree with you, it's stupid and childish to
>>hack into something and spoil many months of hard work.  I know for
>>sure that if the comunity on line aspect of Swamp was taken away,
>>then it'd lose it's following, as not all people know how to host
>>servers, and off line mode would just get too much the same after a
>>while, you might as well just use campaign mode.  It's the only fps
>>game which is online, and should stay that way!
>>
>>-----Original Message----- From: Thomas Ward
>>Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 11:15 PM
>>To: Gamers Discussion list
>>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] happy birthday Swamp
>>
>>Hi Shaun,
>>
>>As usual you are going to absurd extremes. Since we don't really know
>>who is to blame for the attacking of the Swamp servers etc why should
>>Aprone wipe out his servers, his source code, etc and punish the
>>entire community for the actions of a few jerks. Even if it is a few
>>disreputable blind people behind the attacks that's no reason for
>>Aprone to punish everybody for their actions. That is, as I have said,
>>just absurd.
>>
>>As for hacking being human nature I don't believe that for a moment.
>>For one thing legitimate hackers resent being tarred with the same
>>brush as criminals, and the correct term is cracker not hacker. At any
>>rate crackers are generally disreputable people who get a kick out of
>>breaking someone's stuff for the enjoyment of it, and are for the most
>>part social deviants. There is no reason we should just sit back and
>>accept it or brush it off as "human nature." If possible we should
>>hunt them down and punish them like the criminals they are by seeing
>>them do some jail time.
>>
>>Cheers!
>>
>>On 10/22/13, shaun everiss <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>Well ken I can accept the hacking its just human nature.
>>>This last one, really makes me want to bash someone's f**king face in.
>>>I can understand spammy hacks, and the cheating
>>>hacks, I myself joke round and if I can get away with it so be it.
>>>But I'd never take advantage of anyone, spoil it
>>>for anyone or cheat to gain anything at least not
>>>online, offline its a different matter ofcause.
>>>and even then I try not to.
>>>But basically burning down the house.
>>>This is hard to swollow.
>>>It may have been fun I must admit and funny, but
>>>intentional or not hacking has become real trouble.
>>>And if I was aprone personally I would shut down
>>>all servers, reformat all my boxes, make sure I
>>>could never get at any  of my code again and go and have a life!
>>>I wouldn't hesitate.
>>>It helps that most of the people that do this are not on the primary
>>>circle.
>>>Most of us have been on here since the magazine came online in 96.
>>>A lot of us are on the forums to and most on
>>>there bar a few people in the outer rims are generally ok.
>>>A few are kids that muck round and cause issues but they are kids.
>>>However this was clearly an organised attack.
>>>It probably was not from anyone bar underground
>>>lerkers and could have origionated from outside the gameseen.
>>>If I was aprone that would be the only reason not to do what I put above.
>>>Ofcause if it was ever  found that someone on
>>>here did it or in the forums, I think I'd be
>>>justified flaming the lists till I was banned and
>>>going off in a huff for a million years.
>>>How someone or ones could destroy an honest to
>>>god good guy's work is beyond me.
>>>He even made the see monkey still does I think and has many ideas.
>>>Unlike some guy that became alchemy with the
>>>first preorders and other stuff though I was not
>>>involved at all really with this.
>>>On this one aprone I was which is what makes it really hard to handle.
>>>Swamp
>>>s last birthday brandon had a celebration
>>>recording which I still remember then a mission
>>>where he got to the wrong warehouse and then died.
>>>he was trying to run the game at midnight and was tired.
>>>It was fun.
>>>This year we are wandering if swamp has gone to the big tirent in the
>>> sky.
>>>We may be ok this time but next time?
>>>I think its right for aprone to actually stop
>>>making improvements to swamp at least for now.
>>
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