I never quite understood the argument for technology over Braille. Braille displays are very much part of computer technology. I think the real issue is cost. once a technical breakthrough happens for producing braille at low costs, it may experience a revival. I hope so, anyway.
Teresa "The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete Graham On Dec 12, 2013, at 2:45 PM, Charles Rivard <[email protected]> wrote: > You've gotten into the ridiculous, now. Living in caves without today's > technology is far from the thread. I never said it, either. And, if you've > been reading my messages, you would have also read that I do agree that > today's technology is good, but that braille does, in my opinion, have it's > place. So does all of the technology we all are using. I've been trying to > point out where I, personally, think that we can use braille rather than > other technology to enjoy our lives, or at least, mine, better. I find it > enjoyable to read a braille book, while others don't. I don't see the need > to use speech output and some sort of method of scanning a playing card when > you can more easily read it with your fingers using no other technology than > the braille on the card. > > --- > Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, > you! really! are! finished! > ----- Original Message ----- From: "dark" <[email protected]> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 1:01 PM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] the > costofdocumentation-Re:Somepracticalquestionsreguarding theMonopoly game > > >> Hmmm, independence is not relying on technology unless you have to? >> >> Well I hope you enjoy it in that cave with your fire and your club, since >> you don't have! to use electricity, just use the nales and teeth you were >> born with to hunt creatures in the forest and rely on your skin to keep out >> the cold, since who wants all this complex living in houses. >> >> To be hoenst charlse I don't think there's much point continuing this. You >> just seem to have a grudge against any technology that isn't braille, and a >> beleief that braille is inherently superior for some reason. >> >> Myself I just regard braille as a means to an end and prefer to considder it >> so, I've never found anything particularly astounding in it. >> >> Beware the Grue! >> Dark. >> >> I'd >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Rivard" <[email protected]> >> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 6:53 PM >> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] the cost >> ofdocumentation-Re:Somepracticalquestionsreguarding the Monopoly game >> >> >>> Using brailled playing cards rather than an electronic means to access the >>> symbols is just one less thing you have to hold in your hands. I can hold >>> the cards in my hand, face down, and read with fingers that I am already >>> equipped with. No need to stick labels onto the cards when I can braille >>> them and access those labels with nothing other than what I was born with. >>> >>> The technology is available, but can you imagine using a flat bed scanner >>> and OpenBook to find out what each card is? Fingers are faster, less >>> cumbersome, and more reliable. Independence is not having to rely on >>> technology unless you have to. >>> >>> --- >>> Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're >>> finished, you! really! are! finished! >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "dark" <[email protected]> >>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 12:42 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] the cost of >>> documentation-Re:Somepracticalquestionsreguarding the Monopoly game >>> >>> >>>> Well I do agree that the practical shape of the penfriend sensor would >>>> make it less convenient to scan each card in your hand than reading a >>>> braille label, however I suspect this will change in the future, for >>>> example if you could have a smaller and more compact reading device which >>>> you could hold more easily, say something the size of an actual pen. >>>> >>>> Again though, the Penfriend is the first device of it's type and this is >>>> likely to change in the future, plus the device isn't so awkwkard to use >>>> once you've got the muscle memory in your hands, ---- as i said I use mine >>>> a great deal. >>>> >>>> Regarding independence, I'm slightly confused on how using technology >>>> isn't independence, unless your somehow claiming that my Penfriend is >>>> acquivolent to a human helper. Why is writing a braille label and sticking >>>> it onto something any less relying on technology, it's just a question of >>>> the sophistication of the technology, heck if we take this arguement to >>>> it's ultimate conclusion maybe we should all go back to living like >>>> gorillas in the forest and be "independent" of these houses, electricity >>>> etc. >>>> >>>> I'm afraid you've lost me entirely here Charlse. >>>> >>>> Beware the Grue! >>>> >>>> dark. >>>> >>>> --- >>>> Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] >>>> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>>> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>>> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]. >>>> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >>>> please send E-mail to [email protected]. >>> >>> >>> --- >>> Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] >>> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>> [email protected]. >>> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]. >>> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >>> please send E-mail to [email protected]. >>> >> >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> [email protected]. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >> please send E-mail to [email protected]. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [email protected]. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to [email protected]. --- Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [email protected]. 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