On 15 Dec 2013, at 05:13, Ulysses Garcia <birdlover2...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> A question...If you are going to use technical jargon to explain your point, 
> could you also explain those terms for those who are not familiar with 
> networking and put it in a concrete manner so that we are all on the same 
> page and it will not be as overwhelming?

Of course.  Why didn't you ask? :)

> What I meant is, Linode has faced security problems before. This was OT the 
> first time.

I'm still confused by your obsession with Linode.  Let's just start from the 
top.

Linode takes money from customers in exchange for space on their servers to run 
whatever they want.  A customer can send spam, and Linode is obliged, socially, 
to do something about it.  Otherwise, regardless of what Linode does, it's no 
concern of ours.  If Linode persistently fail to be sociable, by refusing 
spammers and other parasites, then we just start blocking them outright on our 
own servers or routers.  That's it.  I have no other involvement with them, and 
I don't want any.  Simply put, their customers are their problem.

Google search on "Linode security" turns up this:
https://blog.linode.com/2013/04/16/security-incident-update/

Is this what you were talking about?  Very nasty, and if it somehow leads to 
freeloaders, very, very bad for Linode.  But again, unless you know something I 
don't :) , not my problem.

And yes, the whole thread is OT. :)

> How did you track down the headers? Can sou use that with Thunderbirds or do 
> you have to use some inaccessible site? I use Hot Mail for e-mail.

I'm using Mail.app in OS X, and I default to showing all headers always.  How 
you do it in Hotmail is something you'll have to find out in Microsoft's 
documentation.  The headers at the top of each message include the Received 
headers, which show the path an email takes through email servers.  The IP 
address of our Linode customer was in the header written by the list server, 
showing that the customer spammed the list server directly.

We should probably continue this privately if you have further questions.

Cheers,
Sabahattin


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