Hi,

I received the following message from the people who make the phrogram kids 
programming language. I think from the message, if you read it, they are 
willing to do what is necessary to make phrogram accessible.

Josh

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jon Schwartz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Josh'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 11:44 AM
Subject: RE: phrogram development question : kids programming language .


> Hello Josh,
>
> Glad you found Phrogram! To answer your questions:
>
> 1. The free version of Phrogram does not compile EXE files or produce
> Windows installer programs.  You are the first blind programmer who has
> asked us about Phrogram, and we would greatly appreciate your feedback 
> about
> Phrogram, as well as about using JAWS with Phrogram, so here is an 
> academic
> license key which you can use to register Phrogram:
>
> ACAP2K7I-TNM1Z-Y2A1Y-EHMZ1
>
> The Help menu, Enter a Registration key is where this key is entered into
> Phrogram.  Phrogram does require .NET Framework 2.0 - you probably already
> have that installed, but I'd be glad to send a download link if you do 
> not.
>
>
> Phrogram is a 27 megabyte download, and can be downloaded from
> http://phrogram.com/files/folders/86/download.aspx
>
> That downloaded EXE launches a standard installation wizard.  Phrogram 
> adds
> a My Phrogram Files folder underneath My Documents, and all included
> Phrogram content is under that folder.
>
> 2. We do not know about JAWS, but I am hopeful that Phrogram will work 
> well
> with it.  Phrogram is a .NET windows application, which JAWS should 
> support
> well.  Phrogram is effectively a simple subset of the Visual Studio.NET
> environment.  It's menus and buttons are fairly standard.  On feature that
> might require some scripting is the Explorer pane, which is basically a 
> tree
> control that organizes the many example programs that are included in
> Phrogram.  I would recommend starting a review of Phrogram program by
> opening the 16 example programs in the folder "1) Step-by-Step Tutorial".
> Those are each simple code examples which will give you a very quick
> introduction to the language.  Another feature which might require some
> scripting is that the code editor using collapsible regions, just like
> Visual Studio does.  The leftmost columns in the code editor include a 
> line
> number which is informational only.  The column after the line number is
> either a + indicating the region can be opened, a - indicating the region
> can be closed, or a | indicating that line is within a region which is 
> open.
>
> At the moment, regions are closed by default.  We already have in mind a
> feature that allows all code regions to be opened by default - this would
> surely be a better default for a blind programmer.
>
> 3. There are fairly standard keyboard shortcuts for all menu items, and 
> they
> are listed on the menu item.  If it would help to have a specific list of
> keystrokes and menu functions I'd be glad to send you that.
>
> 4. Audio games can be created, but at the moment Phrogram's sound support 
> is
> limited to playing, stopping and looping of WAV files.  We plan much 
> richer
> sound support in the future, and your feedback about that would be very
> welcome.  Your request for DirectX-style audio control is one we are
> planning, just as we have also implemented a simplifying wrapper around 
> the
> 3D model functionality in DirectX.  Besides the dozens of WAV files 
> included
> with Phrogram, we offer nearly 200 others for download from our website. 
> I
> am a bit worried about the usability of the site for a blind person, so if
> you find that http://phrogram.com/files/folders/soundfiles/default.aspx is
> not usable for you, I can provide a list of direct urls to download ZIP
> files of our sound archives.
>
> Thank you, and I hope you have fun exploring Phrogram!
>
> Jon Schwartz
> The Phrogram Company
> www.phrogram.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Josh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 09:18 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: Gamers Discussion list
> Subject: phrogram development question : kids programming language .
>
> Hi,
>
> I was doing a google search for programming languages when I came across
> your site. I am blind, and use a screen reader called jaws version 7.0 
> from
> www.freedomscientific.com . I'd like to know the following.
>
> 1. Does the free version of phrogram compile .exe files?
> 2. will it work with jaws? if not, could jaws scripts be written to make 
> it
> work with jaws?
> 3. Are there keyboard shortcuts for the development environment? which 
> would
>
> make it easier for me to use since I don't use the physical mouse. the
> screen reader can simulate mouse clicks using keys on the numeric keypad.
> 4. Can audio games be created using the free versions of phrogram? Here's 
> an
>
> example of what I want to do.
>
> The games I will make have no graphics in them or pictures of any kind.
> instead they use sound at different points in the stereo field panning 
> from
> left to right or right to left. Suppose I make a space invaders type game. 
> I
>
> want to be able to say.
> press the control key or f2 to activate a menu, choose machine gun from 
> that
>
> menu. the menu uses .wav or .mp3 files to guide the player through it. I
> press down arrow in the menu and it tells me what choice I'm on by playing 
> a
>
> .wav or .mp3 file. so then I choose my weapon from the menu press enter. I
> hear the sound of a plane panning from left to right from the left side of
> the stereo to right side. When the sound reaches the middle or a certain
> point in the stereo field, I can successfully shoot it down. If not, I
> cannot and enemy lands and I loose some points. Also, can phrogram control
> the frequency at which a sound is played, stereo, frequency, volume, 
> pitch,
> panning, optional surround sound, etcetera? So basically all of the audio
> features of DirectX and phrogram, I am interested in. Is this language as
> easy to use or harder to learn or use than ruby or pithon?
>
> Josh
>
>
> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> AOL: kutztownstudent
> msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> skype: jkenn337
> 


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