Agreed. I wonder if there's a master list somewhere of software for motherboards that can be accessed in this way?

How accessible are these programs, generally?

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On 11/18/2015 2:08 PM, john wrote:
This is quite fascinating; I think I'm going to be doing some of those searches in the near future. Thanks for the info. I do think, however, that the distinction between the BIOS itself and programs capable of accessing the BIOS is one that should be made.

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There are programs that will allow you to access the bios from your
operating system.  Award was the leader in this field back in the dos
days.  I know other bios manufacturers also have programs that will allow
access to the bios settings after the machine is booted.  You can even
save/restore your bios to/from backups you've saved on the computer.
Admittedly, I no longer use windows, so gaining access to the bios doesn't
concern me as much as it used to, since under linux I can usually force
settings via command-line parameters to the loading kernel when absolutely necessary, so I don't really need to access bios these days (except when I
build a new machine, but there's usually sighted assistance for those
times) Do a search of google, and I'm certain you'll find programs that
will help you gain access to bios settings for various motherboards. And,
since overclocking your cpu can help with gaming, I think this topic fits
right in with audyssey.

On Tue, 17 Nov 2015, john wrote:

Given current technology, BIOS cannot be accessible. The reason for this is
that no software can be loaded at this point, so its impossible to have
speech up and running.
The only theoretical way to cause bios to be accessible would be if the
manufacturer specifically wrote a screen reader for that individual BIOS and
motherboard, but somehow I doubt that happened.
We're going a bit far from gaming here though, so maybe this topic could go
off-list?

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Date sent: Tue, 17 Nov 2015 09:58:42 -0800
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] got my new solid state drive in

Toshiba's bios are accessible? How the heck can you make bios accessible?


Thanks,
Ari

On Nov 16, 2015, at 3:44 PM, Shaun Everiss <sm.ever...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hmmm I had a nec which had the same issues didn't last that long.
I had a system hp to maintain that overheated.
As long as you can get passed their malware asus stuff is generally stable
and rock solid.
I havn't used their laptops but their desktop graphics and main boards are
and I have had no issue with either from a hardware standpoint.
Some del units seem good to though I still go toshiba just because of the
accessible bios alone and a few other tweaks.
They also use standard hardware,  for sound etc these days.
On the hp front their website is quite unfriendly driver site, eprint, etc.
However their printers especially their web enabled ones are quite good.



On 16/11/2015 11:44 p.m., Thomas Ward wrote:
Hi,

I have similar experiences. I now avoid HP like the plague myself
because their systems tend to be very below the par on average, and I
know others with similar experiences. My dad, for instance, had a HP
laptop for about six months, very barely used, and it died. So I don't
generally buy HP anything if I can help it these days.


On 11/16/15, englishride...@gmail.com <englishride...@gmail.com> wrote:
Ah. I avoid HP like the plague now. The first and only laptop I got from
them kept having issue after issue, where both of my Dells, except for one problem, have run for years before giving up the ghost. One lasted for six years, and The other lasted for five years and seven months. Technically the one that lasted for six years still works, since I put Vinux onto it after I
couldn't find my XP disc's after reformatting the system after I got a
rather nasty virus that I was having a ton of trouble removing.

I can't wait to have a solid-state drive in the new laptop that I'm getting soon. It's going to be awesome! It'll be my first system with eight gigs of RAM and a 2.9 Core i5 processor; it's the architecture that's one generation behind the new Skylake processors, but that's fine for me. The model I'll be
getting is a Lenovo ThinkPad T450S.


Thanks,
Ari

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