And also, to be perfectly blunt about it, and this isn't a pop at anybody when I say this, sarah, packman, monti, all copy writed.
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Yohandy Sent: 06 February 2008 18:32 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day Tom, Weren't you considering releasing a game and claim it as your own, while at the same time releasing a sound pack so that people can modify it? wouldn't that be copyright infringement, and isn't that theft? I'm not accusing you, heck everyone on this list would love you for that *grin*, all I'm saying is that it's impossible for most people to take the 100% legal way. Aren't huge companies like Microsoft sued for infringing copyrights all the time? How about record labels? they've too been sued. some accessible games we have contain copyrighted sounds. None of the games I have are illegally obtained, but truth of the matter is if we were to obtain everything we wanted 100% legally, we'd need a large supply of cash and unfortunately that's something many blind and visually impaired individuals lack. Just thought I'd jump into the discussion since the entire list has *grin*. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 1:07 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day > Hi Josh, > Well, if we want to take the strictly legal view copying music tapes, > recording tv shows for friends, etc is piracy. However, as Michael > pointed out because nothing physically is stolen it is hard to think > of it as theft. I am sure everyone on this list, including me, has > done it in our lives and never thought anything of it. I know I have, > and it is a very hard habit to break. Alot of this stems from > intelectual property rights. We all disagree with some property rights > that seam to us to be unreasonable or unfair. For example, George > Lucas invented Star Wars, and legally has the right to control the > Star Wars trade marks, copyrights, and so on as he wishes. However, > fans of his ideas want to know why they are not freely permited to > write games, make movies, games, etc using his ideas. Lucas doesn't > allow it, and I want to. Now, just because I want to does that give me > the right to steel his ideas? > > josh wrote: >> I guess then I shouldn't have recorded tv shows and coppied cassettes >> for people when I was a teenager because that is or was piracy also? >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 9:41 AM >> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day >> >> >> >>> Hi Shaun, >>> Your opinion is exactly the kind of double standard I was talking >>> about a day or two ago. It is very hypocritical, and comes back to >>> my point we lie best when we lie to ourselves. On one hand you say >>> pirating software is wrong, but on the other you say pirating music >>> is O.K. Did it ever occur to you steeling is steeling no matter what >>> it is you steel? >>> >>> >>> shaun everiss wrote: >>> >>>> yeah, music and audio is one thing software is another. >>>> >>>> >>> --- >>> Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] >>> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your >>> subscription via the web, at >>> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of >>> the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.20/1261 - Release Date: >>> 2/5/2008 >>> 8:57 PM >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >> please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. 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