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Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza?
Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash.
----- Original Message ----- From: "William L. Houts" <cad...@q.com>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 6:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was Q9 and cracks





Hi Gang,

For dozens of messages now, I've been skipping the Q9 thread.  But at this
point I've become very curious as to what this game is like and whether I
should plunk down anything for it.  Can someone direct me to a website or
otherwise let me in on the great secret?  I don't mean to clutter up the
list with this, so just email me directly, if you aren't just totally
annoyed by this post.


--Bill


----- Original Message ----- From: "Mauricio Almeida" <mauricio...@uol.com.br>
To: <gamers@audyssey.org>
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 4:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was Q9 and cracks


when you dont pay a dime for jaws, windows eyes, or anything of the
similarity, you're fine though. I myself find jaws not problematc at
all, but thats just me
-----Mensagem original-----
De: "Bryan Peterson" <bpeterson2...@cableone.net>
Para: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Data: Sexta, 27 de Novembro de 2009 09:20
Assunto: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was  Q9 and cracks

Not only that but Window-Eyes allows you to use more voices than JAWS does.
It's cool when I can use the same voice I use for, say, Kitchens Inc Games,
for Window-Eyes without it crashing the screen reader. But I can pretty much
guarantee that any game developer in our market who tries or even considers
using so restrictive a security measure can expect not to make much money if
any at all.
Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza?
Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Darren Harris" <darren_g_har...@btinternet.com>
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Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 6:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks


Hi thomas,

Couldn't agree more here. In so many ways they are just shooting themselves
in the foot and any company really that uses this method of security is
doing the same. Also when you consider the price that fs charges for both
the programme and the SMA upgrades afterwards, you're paying a very high
price for something that is so restrictive. Especially in the old days
before the ILM when we were using the floppy disk system, if you forgot to
get additional keys and you needed to reinstall, you're stuck until the
postman gets to you with a new disk and with any luck in the process it's
not damaged. I had my own version of jaws since v3.7.

Well whilst we're on the subject of why we switched to window eyes,
personally for me the major thing was how we handles the internet. Although
I haven't seen jaws 11 working window eyes really does work well with the
net I think. I switched when it went to jaws 8, I couldn't be bothered to
keep shelling out tons of cash for upgrades when since v7, it was just being
very problematic on the net. I found myself constently going back to old
versions just to keep the programme stable. When you're paying per year £150
as you can see I justified that as being unacceptable. Also it caused my
system to slow down no end. It really was problematic. I got wineyes in
march 2007 and as you know since then we've only had 1 SMA or paid upgrade.
That was v7.0. so in the 2 and or so half years that I've had the programme,
I have only used 1 upgrade because I bought v6.0, and I haven't had to pay a
penny since. Which I think personally is fantastic. Just goes to show you
how fs rip off the customer doesn't it. Although with the amount of times
they seem to dlike taking people to court they have to fund that somewhere
don't they "evil laugh".

-----Original Message-----
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Thomas Ward
Sent: 27 November 2009 13:11
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks


Hi Daren,
Unfortunately, that has always been Jaws's major weakness. The
manufacturer, Freedom Scientific, feels maximum product security takes
presidents over end user convenience. So they tend to use the harshest
and most restrictive security systems imaginable for the screen reader. That
might be fine if it actually worked, but it doesn't. I know for a
fact there are cracks of Jaws 11 flying around the internet, and Freedom
Scientific hasnt' stopped the illegal distribution of the Jaws software.
All they have done is made it harder for the end users, their customers,
to legally register and use their software. It is a lose lose situation.
Personally I don't think companies like Freedom Scientific gain much by
using such security systems. One of the reasons I switched to Window
eyes is to avoid having to screw around with dongles, authorization
disks, or any other draconian security system they came up with over the
passed few years. It is too much of a pain to use the product in my
profession, because I can't just take it and use it anywhere and
everywhere I might need to. I feel if I pay for the product I should at
least have the right to use it when and where I need to without being
hampered by restrictive product licensing.
In terms of games those aren't as important as a screen reader, but the
same principles do apply. I have a couple of games like Troopenum that I
haven't requested a new product key for, because I simply got tired of
having to get a new one everytime I perform an upgrade on my computer,
buy a new laptop, whatever. It gets to be too much work getting new keys
for every game I want to play.

Darren Harris wrote:
Hi,

Some of the registration processes and what breaks them are just plain
stupid though. Take jaws for example. My partner had to have some ram
replaced on her pc. Now nothing else was changed. Nothing at all. Well
jaws went straight into demo mode. This was at work by the way. So as
you can imagine this is mighty inconvenient. So she called up her
local jaws dealer only to be told that this is a normal thing because
jaws thinks it's a new pc. Which really is stupid. So she had to
obtain the cd with the ILM number on it, run it and re-licence the
product again. Now sorry but how stupid is that? It's just so
ridiculous! With window eyes you just don't get this problem.



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