Hi Thomas,
Was it? Hmmm...I could've sworn Che said Vb6. Just a general question, but
coes any VB6 aplication use the .net framework?
Best Regards,
Hayden

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Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 4:20 PM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] programming

Hi Hayden,
Just a correction, but RailRacer was written in Visual Basic .Net not
Visual Basic 6. There is a big difference. Anyway, I do take your
point.
Admitedly I do have an advantage here as I am a programmer so some of
this is a result of my education. Another person who knows nothing
about programming might not jknow what to look for. Although, as I
said earlier once you know what to look for it is a rather simple and
easy process to determine what language a certain program was written
in, or you can give an educated guess.

On 2/19/10, Hayden Presley <hdpres...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Thomas,
> That is true, but then there are other cases. For example, if I had not
> listened to the ACB Radio podcast on RailRacer, I wouldn't have known it
was
> written in Visual Basic 6. Same with the BSC Game and L-Works titles.
> Granted, I don't pretened to be a master at programming, but...
> Best Regards,
> Hayden
>
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> From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
> Behalf Of Thomas Ward
> Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 9:19 AM
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> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] programming
>
> Hi Jim,
> As I always tell people, when they ask me what programming language to
> learn, every programming language has its own advantages and
> disadvantages.  There is no one-size fits all solution. There is
> usually some trade off of some kind to be made when picking one
> language over another.
> For example, If your aim is rapid development, ease of use, then Java,
> Python, or Visual Basic will probably be the primary choice. Although,
> on the down side those languages do run slower and depend on
> third-party runtime libraries to interface with the lower level C++
> native libraries of the operating system. As a result the end user may
> have to install extra packages such as the Visual Basic runtime, .Net
> Framework, Java Runtime Environment, Python Runtime Environment, etc
> increasing the size and complexity of your install.
> On the other hand you can write your application directly in C++,
> cutting out the middlman software completely, but at the cost of a
> more complex programming language. On the upside C++ applications run
> faster, don't require any runtime environment, and allows the
> developer a greater control over system performance and stability.
> Finally, the type of application you are trying to create might or
> might not influence the language you use. If you are creating a text
> editor, for example, it hardly matters if it is written in Visual
> Basic, Java, C++, whatever as it will all work about the same. If you
> are trying to write a hardware driver, TTS engine, or something that
> requires low level programming then by all means use C++. Like I said
> earlier there are trade offs to be made, and often the language you
> need depends on the type of application as well as your own personal
> needs. That is why professional programmers tend to be trained in
> several different programming languages to prepare them for using the
> right language for the right project so to speak.
> As far as your comment, "no one can tell what language the finished
> project was written in," I have to disagree with that. If you know
> what to look for it is quite easy to figure out the language being
> used. For one thing if the system requirements state the program
> requires Java Runtime version x then the obvious conclusion is it is
> written in Java. Likewise if the requirements state needs .Net
> Framework version x then it is likely written in C# .Net or Visual
> Basic .Net. If you have to install the Visual Basic 6 runtime then the
> obvious conclusion is it is written in Visual Basic 6. there are other
> easy indicators like a Java program ends with a *.jar extention that
> is a dead give away for anyone wanting to know. So maybe not everyone
> will know the language a certain program is written in, do to lack of
> experience perhaps, but anyone can certainly figure it out if they
> know what to look for. At that point it becomes pretty
> self-explanitory.
>
> Cheers!
>
>
> On 2/18/10, Jim Kitchen <j...@kitchensinc.net> wrote:
>> Hi Thomas,
>>
>> Yeah, I have been programming in BASIC since 1980, COBOL and FORTRAN
> before
>> that.  If you like to do all of the extra work that a low level language
>> takes, well that is your choice.  Personally when I have a job to do, I
am
>> going to choose the tool that will allow me to get the job done in the
>> easiest and most efficient manner.  And since as you say VB6 does allot
of
>> the work for me, that is the language that I choose to use.  And heck no
> one
>> can tell which language the finished program was written in anyway.
>>
>> And I say that over 30 years of successful programming with tens of
>> thousands of satisfied users makes me an experienced programmer
regardless
>> of the language I choose to use.
>>
>> BFN
>
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