Hi Ryan,
Thanks for that.

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From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Ryan Smith
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 9:31 PM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] programming

Hi,
No, VB6 does not use the .NET framework, and Rail Racer definitely uses
.NET.
-Ryan

On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Hayden Presley <hdpres...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi Thomas,
> Was it? Hmmm...I could've sworn Che said Vb6. Just a general question, but
> coes any VB6 aplication use the .net framework?
> Best Regards,
> Hayden
>
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> From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
> Behalf Of Thomas Ward
> Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 4:20 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] programming
>
> Hi Hayden,
> Just a correction, but RailRacer was written in Visual Basic .Net not
> Visual Basic 6. There is a big difference. Anyway, I do take your
> point.
> Admitedly I do have an advantage here as I am a programmer so some of
> this is a result of my education. Another person who knows nothing
> about programming might not jknow what to look for. Although, as I
> said earlier once you know what to look for it is a rather simple and
> easy process to determine what language a certain program was written
> in, or you can give an educated guess.
>
> On 2/19/10, Hayden Presley <hdpres...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Thomas,
>> That is true, but then there are other cases. For example, if I had not
>> listened to the ACB Radio podcast on RailRacer, I wouldn't have known it
> was
>> written in Visual Basic 6. Same with the BSC Game and L-Works titles.
>> Granted, I don't pretened to be a master at programming, but...
>> Best Regards,
>> Hayden
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
>> Behalf Of Thomas Ward
>> Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 9:19 AM
>> To: Gamers Discussion list
>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] programming
>>
>> Hi Jim,
>> As I always tell people, when they ask me what programming language to
>> learn, every programming language has its own advantages and
>> disadvantages.  There is no one-size fits all solution. There is
>> usually some trade off of some kind to be made when picking one
>> language over another.
>> For example, If your aim is rapid development, ease of use, then Java,
>> Python, or Visual Basic will probably be the primary choice. Although,
>> on the down side those languages do run slower and depend on
>> third-party runtime libraries to interface with the lower level C++
>> native libraries of the operating system. As a result the end user may
>> have to install extra packages such as the Visual Basic runtime, .Net
>> Framework, Java Runtime Environment, Python Runtime Environment, etc
>> increasing the size and complexity of your install.
>> On the other hand you can write your application directly in C++,
>> cutting out the middlman software completely, but at the cost of a
>> more complex programming language. On the upside C++ applications run
>> faster, don't require any runtime environment, and allows the
>> developer a greater control over system performance and stability.
>> Finally, the type of application you are trying to create might or
>> might not influence the language you use. If you are creating a text
>> editor, for example, it hardly matters if it is written in Visual
>> Basic, Java, C++, whatever as it will all work about the same. If you
>> are trying to write a hardware driver, TTS engine, or something that
>> requires low level programming then by all means use C++. Like I said
>> earlier there are trade offs to be made, and often the language you
>> need depends on the type of application as well as your own personal
>> needs. That is why professional programmers tend to be trained in
>> several different programming languages to prepare them for using the
>> right language for the right project so to speak.
>> As far as your comment, "no one can tell what language the finished
>> project was written in," I have to disagree with that. If you know
>> what to look for it is quite easy to figure out the language being
>> used. For one thing if the system requirements state the program
>> requires Java Runtime version x then the obvious conclusion is it is
>> written in Java. Likewise if the requirements state needs .Net
>> Framework version x then it is likely written in C# .Net or Visual
>> Basic .Net. If you have to install the Visual Basic 6 runtime then the
>> obvious conclusion is it is written in Visual Basic 6. there are other
>> easy indicators like a Java program ends with a *.jar extention that
>> is a dead give away for anyone wanting to know. So maybe not everyone
>> will know the language a certain program is written in, do to lack of
>> experience perhaps, but anyone can certainly figure it out if they
>> know what to look for. At that point it becomes pretty
>> self-explanitory.
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>>
>> On 2/18/10, Jim Kitchen <j...@kitchensinc.net> wrote:
>>> Hi Thomas,
>>>
>>> Yeah, I have been programming in BASIC since 1980, COBOL and FORTRAN
>> before
>>> that.  If you like to do all of the extra work that a low level language
>>> takes, well that is your choice.  Personally when I have a job to do, I
> am
>>> going to choose the tool that will allow me to get the job done in the
>>> easiest and most efficient manner.  And since as you say VB6 does allot
> of
>>> the work for me, that is the language that I choose to use.  And heck no
>> one
>>> can tell which language the finished program was written in anyway.
>>>
>>> And I say that over 30 years of successful programming with tens of
>>> thousands of satisfied users makes me an experienced programmer
> regardless
>>> of the language I choose to use.
>>>
>>> BFN
>>
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