Hi Damien,
JAWS 10 offerred accessible with iTunes 8, and JAWS 11 works well with
iTunes 9. If nothing, it's a good way to store music, though it's a royal
pain that you can't convert the music without downloading a special utility
for the thing.

Best Regards,
Hayden


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From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Damien Pendleton
Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 2:13 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error

Hi David,
Well that's the first I've heard on that score. I've never been able to 
successfully work IPods, ITunes, Quicktime, etc.
Regards,
Damien.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Chittenden" <dchitten...@gmail.com>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 1:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error


> Hello,
>
> This is exactly why I will be switching to the mac in the near future and 
> hope that game creators start making more of these accessible games for 
> that platform. Apple is the only major consumer electronics company which 
> is taking an extremely active role in blindness accessibility.
>
> David Chittenden, MSc, CRC, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>
>
> On 7/10/2010 11:47 AM, Damien Pendleton wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Thing is, the majority seem to think about themselves, and the minority 
>> can hop it. They should be working for everybody. For example, how much 
>> is available for the deaf? The physically handicapped? The paralyzed? 
>> Only people who are not used to these conditions, gawking, laughing, 
>> scorning, and completely, it seems, giving them up as a bad job, which is

>> why, most of the time, people with disabilities usually stick with their 
>> own kind, who are also struggling because nothing has been put in place 
>> for everybody.
>> It is far, far too prejudiced. I know it's nowhere near as bad, but it 
>> reminds me of the time when Africans were treated horribly because of 
>> skin colour, and they didn't have a leg to stand on because, quote 
>> unquote, that was the way of it. It's similar to people with 
>> disabilities. Instead of looking at what we need to make our lives just 
>> as comfortable as more able people, we just struggle on, deal with it and

>> say, well that's the way of the world, nobody wants to learn so we'll 
>> leave it there type attitude. Yes, fine. Have an interface for the 
>> sighted, and complete 100% healthy people, but continue to maintain 
>> services for disabled people also.
>> Just because a company is there to make money doesn't mean they should be

>> prejudiced with no compassion and a heart of pure cold stone.
>> Regards,
>> Damien.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Chittenden" 
>> <dchitten...@gmail.com>
>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 12:33 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Tomb Hunter Error
>>
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> After reading the past few messages on this subject, I have decided to 
>>> respond with some answers we never like to hear.
>>>
>>> 1) The total population of legally blind people in the US is 0.6% of the

>>> US population. This includes everyone with up to 20/200 vision. The 
>>> total population of blind people in the world is just over 35 million, 
>>> or about 0.6% of the total world population. This means, we are an 
>>> extremely small group of people. There are more people using the least 
>>> common computer OS than there are visually impaired people.
>>>
>>> Because we are such a tiny minority, it falls squarely upon us to adapt 
>>> ourselves to the sighted world. The fact that companies do a little bit 
>>> to help us is great, but there is virtually no profit in it for them. We

>>> can choose to stay behind at whatever point we are comfortable with, 
>>> just like anybody else. That said, as has been pointed out, companies 
>>> are in business to make money. In order to do this successfully, they 
>>> must constantly give at least the appearance of innovating or the 
>>> competition will take their place.
>>>
>>> I, for one, choose to continuously learn, grow, and adapt to the new and

>>> ever-shifting paradigm of the modern technology world. This way, I can 
>>> keep myself marketable and employable. Also, it allows me to continue 
>>> enjoying the latest games which come out.
>>>
>>> As to the classic start menu which, apparently, primarily only blind 
>>> people prefer, I actually don't like it. I find it to be way too 
>>> limiting. And, before you ask, I started as a DOS power user. I much 
>>> prefer the simplicity of point and click (pressing the alt key, arrowing

>>> to the menu I need, and arrowing to my choice) over constantly needing 
>>> to remember esoteric commands.
>>>
>>> I will soon be switching to the iPhone 4 because it has a touch-screen, 
>>> so there are even less esoteric commands which I need to remember. I 
>>> just needed to learn the new interface, and I did that over the past 
>>> year through regularly borrowing my former flatmate's iPhone 3GS. I will

>>> switch to the MacBook and its touch pad interface for the same reason. I

>>> made the decision a long time ago to, as much as possible, learn to use 
>>> and become proficient with sighted technology interfaces whenever 
>>> possible so that I can keep my costs lower while interfacing with my 
>>> sighted peers and friends in ways which are most convenient for them. 
>>> After all, I am the one who, by nature of being blind, is different, so 
>>> must fit in if I want to associate with the chosen group that is the 
>>> majority.
>>>
>>> David Chittenden, MSc, CRC, MRCAA
>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/10/2010 6:24 AM, Damien Pendleton wrote:
>>>> Hi Thomas,
>>>> The problem here is, even some sighted people don't know how to use it.

>>>> Heck, I have trouble getting somebody sighted to help me do a reinstall

>>>> of XP simply because they don't know how radio buttons work, etc, etc.
>>>> What I'm trying to say is, while there are maybe a load of people who 
>>>> will benefit from the upgrade, newbies and VI users do not, and it's 
>>>> time more people started fighting for their rights.
>>>> Like I said before, if blind people just go with the flow then how on 
>>>> earth are other people in this world going to be able to cater for us?
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Damien.
>>>>
>>>>
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