HI there, Ok, I thought we were talking about panning in general. therewith, I withdraw what I said.
Kevin ----- Original Message ----- From: Thomas Ward <thomasward1...@gmail.com> To: Gamers Discussion list <email@example.com> Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2010 16:53:41 -0400 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mota beta14 absolutely rocks! > Hi Kevin, > I think you are confusing simple 2d panning with rendering sounds > through a 3d renderer interface. Comparing those two things from a > technical point of view is like showing someone an apple and saying it > is an orange. They are totally different things and can't be compared > to each other equally. > All of the new games you mentioned such as the Grand Theft Auto > series, Counter-Strike, Need for Speed, whatever have a 3d audio > interface and therefore all the sounds are rendered using a 3d > renderer. Since they depend on a 3d renderer for 5.1 surround sound to > position audio they are absolutely not using simple 2d panning. > Panning and 3d renderers from a programming/technical discussion are > like comparing apples and oranges. > If you are confused about the difference between stereo panning and > 5.1 surround sound I think you need to read some programming books on > DirectX or some other explanitory document that explains the > fundimental differences. However, I can sum it up by saying 2d panning > simply moves the sound between a left and right channel of audio. A 3d > renderer such as that which comes with XAudio2, for example, allows > you to position the sound between 5 channels giving you the ability to > take advantage of 5.1 surround sound technology. > So what people are saying that new games don't use panning is true. > They don't use panning but 5.1 surround sound.So you bfore telling > people they are wrong, that this or that is false, I think you need to > do a little more technical research on the matter. Panning and 5.1 > surround sound aren't the same thing. > > HTH > > > On 10/9/10, weis...@googlemail.com <weis...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I have to clear a few things here. > > First, mainstream games and panning. What people have been saying is mostly > > false. If you play new games like Modern warfar 2, or even max payne 2, > > all the grand theft auto series including 1, the driver series, need for > > speed, counter-strike, and many, many others do have surround sound > > capabilities. Some of the shooters, if you wear 5.1 capable headphones, > > are fun to play. Assasin screed is another very audio rich game. I > > managed to complete and pass a few levels. So, the fact main-stream games > > have no panning is completely false. In fact, tell me a game which is > > developed for modern consoles which has no panning. But don't just > > announce titles. Please tell me eral titles. Titles you've tried with > > good headphones on your head and played for a while trying to figure it > > out. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Kevin > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.