That's why I always use a separate board and pieces to figure my next move. Moving around a board containing several move possibilities, using speech square by square, I forget where they all are, where they can be moved to over long distances, and the possible consequences.

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Hayden Presley" <hdpres...@hotmail.com>
To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: VO accessible Chess, Checkers,Draughts and Xaingqi games released for iPhone, iPad & iTouch



Hi,
I'm betting checkers/chess is mucheasier when you have a touch screen. One
of my biggest problems with those kinds of games when using a computer is
that it's hard to keep a complete picture in your mind as you're moving
around.

Best Regards,
Hayden


-----Original Message-----
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Zachary Kline
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 10:58 AM
To: Charles Rivard; Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: VO accessible Chess, Checkers, Draughts and
Xaingqi games released for iPhone, iPad & iTouch

As far as I understand it, Draughts and Checkers are mostly the same game,
except for being played on differently-sized boards and perhaps a few
subtler rule variations.  DOn't quote me on that though.
It is certainly possible for a blind person to use an iPhone without special assistance, or an iPod Touch in my case. It does take some getting used to
though.  Feel free to write me off-list if you're interested, and I'll try
to help however I can.  Do enjoy the games, if you get one.
Best,
Zack.
On Feb 4, 2011, at 8:52 AM, Charles Rivard wrote:

I was thinking the same thing.  I might be getting an iPhone that will
work with the verizon phone network soon. I wasn't sure that a blind person
could use a touch sensitive screen that has no landmarks, but was given an
iPhone as a company phone, and figured that if other totally blind people
can use one, I probably can, too. I'm still working on learning the iPhone 4, but it is doable. Once I get one, if I do, I'll be sure to check out the
chess program using a tactile chess set.

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Hayden Presley"
<hdpres...@hotmail.com>
To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: VO accessible Chess, Checkers,Draughts and
Xaingqi games released for iPhone, iPad & iTouch


Hi,
Just wondering but why do we have checkers and draughts? I could've sworn
those were the same thing.

Best Regards,
Hayden


-----Original Message-----
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Zachary Kline
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 11:57 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: [Audyssey] Fwd: VO accessible Chess, Checkers, Draughts and
Xaingqi
games released for iPhone, iPad & iTouch

Hi All,
I thought I'd pass this along in case there's anybody who would want
accessible versions of Chess or the other games for an Apple device on
this
list.  I've personally tried out the chess app and found it very nice
indeed.
Best,
Zack.

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From: Bryan Jones <openses...@me.com>
Date: February 3, 2011 5:54:03 PM PST
To: macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
Subject: VO accessible Chess, Checkers, Draughts and Xaingqi games
released for iPhone, iPad & iTouch
Reply-To: macvisionar...@googlegroups.com

Greetings All,

Today Apple approved and released the accessible versions of Marcel
Nijman's Chess-wise Apps! In addition, Marcel modified three of his other
game apps to make them VO accessible. Those Apps are: Checker-wise,
Draughts-wise and Xiangqi-wise. These apps are all now available
worldwide
in the App Store and in the following languages: English, Spanish,
Russian,
German and Dutch. Marcel hopes to add Polish, Czech and French
translations
in the next update. The viphone mailing list, Scott Howell and Geoff
Waller
in particular, were instrumental in providing input, feedback and other
information to Marcel during this process.

Each of these four Apps is a universal App, which means they will run
correctly on the iPhone, iTouch and iPad. WHile there is a free version
of
the Chess-wise App, I would urge you to consider purchasing the Pro
version
to support Marcel's work. The price is only US $2.99 for the Chess and
Checker Apps, and only US $1.99 for the Draughts and Xiangqi Apps. I
believe
Marcel is the kind of developer who deserves our support one hundred
percent.

I've not tried the 3 other games yet, but I can tell you the Chessboard
and Chess pieces are now recognized and read aloud by VO. You can
navigate
the board using a one-finger swipe, or you can just slide one finger
around
the board and VO will announce the coordinates and the name of a piece if
one occupies that square. To make a move, use one finger to locate the
piece
you want to move, then double-tap. VO will announce "Selected." Now use
one
finger again to locate the destination square and double-tap again.
Please
note that this is considered a first version of this game in it's
accessible
form. While Marcel has made the heart of the App accessible, it is a very
feature-rich App which will require additional coding to make it fully
accessible. Marcel has asked that those of us who use the Apps provide
feedback to him so he can continue to refine and update the accessibility
features.

Here is a link to Marcel's App Gallery in the US iTunes store:
http://itunes.apple.com/us/artist/marcel-nijman/id337888122

Here is a link to Chess-wise Pro in the US App Store:
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/chess-wise-pro/id351303981?mt=8

Here is a link to Chess-wise FREE in the US App Store:
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/chess-wise-free/id367318028?mt=8

Cheers,
Bryan

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