Hi Willem, A lot of the arguments out there against pornographic content like games naturally comes from the religious list members, because it violates some of there basic moral principalities. In the bible, for example, it says to even look at a woman with lust is the same as adultry in the eyes of God. Well, if someone actually believes that having the thought is equal as the deed itself you can see how such people will strongly object to such material existing, because in their minds you are causing people to carry out the act of adultry in their minds. That's where I differ in opinion.
To me weather you play an adult oriented game, or blow away a bunch of people in a game the act is not equal to real life. It is nothing more and nothing less than fantasy, imagination, and thus shouldn't be held equal to real life events. I've never killed anyone in real life, but I didn't think twice about blowing the insane scientist away in Shades of Doom. Does that really make me immoral? No, not really. I have values, morals, too but they are a bit more liberal than some. What I do or do not do in a game is separate from my actual feelings and opinion on the subject. Adult oriented games are no more and no less worse than any other kind of fiction in my book. For example, one of the aif game ideas I had is about a female police detective who is about to bust your criminal organization up and put you behind bars. Since you are a serious bad son of a gun you are going to teach her a lesson. So the game would start out with you and your thugs kidnapping her, and bringing her back to your hide out. You'd strip her down and turn her into your sex slave. Its the kind of game that falls heavily into the bnd catagory. Ok, obviously this isn't something I'd do in real life. Not only is kidnapping, rape, and non-consentual bnd pretty illegal I actually don't believe in physically doing that to a woman in real life without her expressed permission. Since I haven't known that many women who like bnd I feel free to explore those fantasies through a game world, a fantasy environment, and explore those darker lusts through a safe outlet that harms no one. I think it is people who don't have outlets who actually commit crimes, and do things that are socially and morally unacceptable. This is one of the reasons I think they should legalize prostitution. There are places like Australia, Germany, etc who have legalized prostitution and it is safer than most places in the world because to get licensed those girls have to have frequent medical check ups, some girls won't take a client without seeing his medical history, and they run it like a business where the safety of the girl and the client are taken into consideration. The government can collect income tax from it, since its a legit profession, and its healthier for the guys to. If a guy is having stress, maybe has a sexual fantasy he can't get anywhere else, he can hire a girl for the night to play sex games. In countries where prostitution is illegal the statistics show sexual based offenses is much hire. I wonder why? Bottom line, I don't think thoughts or feelings are good or bad. Its what you do with them that makes them moral or immoral. Those of a more religious point of view may disagree with me on that, but its my opinion. Its what you do or don't do that counts. Cheers! On 1/6/12, Willem Venter <dwill...@gmail.com> wrote: > I guess the issue many people have with adult games is that they > consider playing these games some form of adultery and encouraging > loose morals. They forget that it is just fantasy. I'm sure some > people could take it that far, but most people stop taking the game > seriously once they shut the pc down. In the same way violent games > are also considered to be a form of murder to some. The reasoning is a > bit harder to explain by them though, as there are no real corpses > after you won the game. > > The human imagination is boundless. Better to let it move in a healthy > way than to suppress it until it turns weird and unhealthy. I've seen > people that suppress themselves so much that they become plain strange > after a while. > > Games allow us to explore things we would not consider doing in real > life. Afterward we can also think about things we learned and also > decide what we like and do not like. By playing violent games I've > learned how to better control anger (does the insane scientist ring > any bells?) It reminded me of my little brother. I'm sure there are > many other examples. > > ps to Thomas, like you said, Angle is very important, pun intended. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
