Ibrahim!  I downloaded the Infocom collection that you sent to the list 
recently, have read the 
beginners' guide, and I recognise many of the commands from my Colossal Cave 
days, and even the 
suggestion of drawing a map of the location of rooms and routes was familiar.
Obviously, that was written for sighted players.  Has any totally-blind one 
found a way of doing the 
same?
The "colossal Cave" is the only infocom game I have played and that was in the 
days before I had 
access to the internet so I used a floppy disk.
I would like to have a crack at the ones you made available, but how do you 
start them?  I thought 
that there would be an executable file, but there isn't.
Is the winfrotz a separate program that I have to download?  When I try to open 
the files that are 
marked with a z, the computer tells me that it can't open them as it has to 
know in what program 
they were created:  do I want it to go on-line to get the appropriate software? 
 I don't know what 
to tell it.

        Jewel

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From: "Ibrahim Gucukoglu" <ibrahim_gucuko...@sent.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 2:48 AM
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Kitchensinc games

Hi Jacob.

Ah now, that's a pity, the classic Infocom games are something worth
playing, I hope you'll chance your arm and test your metal with these, I
still enjoy them even though I've played and completed many of them years
before.

All the best and send the link to the archive as soon as you have it
uploaded.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Jacob Kruger
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 1:34 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Kitchensinc games

Thanks, re: infocom, but, no worries - while don't play those types of games
too often, do have winfrotz, filfor etc. here, and also have like a DHTML
instance of an IF handling app, so getting them to work isn't an issue -
just don't get around to it often enough...<smile>

Reminds me, must also spend bit more time playing around with colossal cave
adventure, but, the android version, that's free, and also includes it's own
TTS output.

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ibrahim Gucukoglu" <ibrahim_gucuko...@sent.com>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 2:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Kitchensinc games


> Hi Jacob.
>
> Many thanks, look forward to it.  Do you need any help with the infocom
> stuff?  If so then please dont hesitate to get in touch.
>
> All the best, Ibrahim.
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Jacob Kruger
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 12:07 PM
> To: Gamers Discussion list
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Kitchensinc games
>
> Ok, the zip file with all the files etc. is busy synch'ing with dropbox -
> 120Mb, so give it a bit of time.
>
> And, yes, I did download a copy of your IF games collection...<smile>
>
> Stay well
>
> Jacob Kruger
> Blind Biker
> Skype: BlindZA
> '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ibrahim Gucukoglu" <ibrahim_gucuko...@sent.com>
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 1:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Kitchensinc games
>
>
>> Hi Jacob.
>>
>> Do you mind sharing your folder of stuff?  I recently shared my
>> collection of Infocom games and related materials for the benefit of the
>> community and would be delighted to let you have them if you want.
>>
>> All the best, Ibrahim.
>>
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: Jacob Kruger
>> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 4:36 AM
>> To: Gamers Discussion list
>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Kitchensinc games
>>
>> Yup.
>>
>> Also got the collection of songs, and sort of comedy clips here...<smile>
>>
>> Stay well
>>
>> Jacob Kruger
>> Blind Biker
>> Skype: BlindZA
>> '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Ibrahim Gucukoglu" <ibrahim_gucuko...@sent.com>
>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2012 11:09 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Kitchensinc games
>>
>>
>>> Hi Jacob.
>>>
>>> Wuo, that brings back memories, the singing dectalk craze.  I have a
>>> directory on my hard drive for shit like this LOLOL, plenty of song
>>> samples and even full length songs in there which I occasionally listen
>>> to in an idle moment.
>>>
>>> All the best, Ibrahim.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- 
>>> From: Jacob Kruger
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2012 7:03 PM
>>> To: Gamers Discussion list
>>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Kitchensinc games
>>>
>>> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/13327195/depressed_pc.mp3
>>>
>>> Jacob Kruger
>>> Blind Biker
>>> Skype: BlindZA
>>> '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Thomas Ward" <thomasward1...@gmail.com>
>>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2012 8:47 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Kitchensinc games
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Bryan,
>>>>
>>>> LOL. That is funny. It sort of reminds me of the Dectalk skit that was
>>>> being passed around about 10 years ago where the Dectalk was singing
>>>> about commiting suicide. It went something like, "I an't nothing but a
>>>> crummy crappy old computer. A crummy crappy old computer. Please,
>>>> erase my hard drive, because I'd really like to die." I don't remember
>>>> it word for word but it was funny.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11/25/12, Bryan Peterson <bpeterson2...@cableone.net> wrote:
>>>>> LOL. That's wy I made a little mp3 file a few years back called Sam's
>>>>> Lament. Sam comits suicide because nonbody likes to use him, but in
>>>>> the
>>>>> process of doing so he takes out the computer. LOL.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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