On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 2:01 AM, Guido Trotter <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 7:37 PM, Lance Albertson <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Lance and Guido,

>>>
>>> I don't see in the proposal the external storage interface mentioned, and
>>> indeed I am not sure we should use that to provide gluster support. Why not
>>> going for a "gluster" type inside Ganeti? This would also be the only way to
>>> make sure the qemu gluster inteface can be used easily.
>>>

Yeah, actually, i think we should provide "gluster" type as an external storage
back-end driver. Because i think it is just a kind of backend storage driver. If
we provide for "gluster" inside, i am not sure the benefits. However, if it is
supported as one of external storage, the realization would be simple and
clear. Maybe i should study more with inside "gluster".

>>
>> I haven't used the external storage provider much myself but from reading
>> the design doc it seems to fit within the typical use case for that
>> provider. Why do you feel it doesn't fit well with it and that it requires
>> its own type? Perhaps I need to take a closer look at how the qemu gluster
>> interface actually works. Should we focus on getting the qemu gluster
>> interface working for Ganeti, the more typical way you use gluster with it
>> mounted on the Ganeti node, or try and focus on both? I think the qemu
>> gluster interface is the most ideal personally.

I don't think qemu gluster would work for Ganeti because it can only support
for QEMU. We have other VM types.

>
> My feeling is that the external storage is for allowing admins to add
> support for their own site-specific SANs/devices, but not for
> something that we want to provide full support from Ganeti.

I should dig into Ganeti for these stuffs.

>
> I think we should focus on qemu+gluster and just fallback to the other
> method (if feasible without huge extra work).
> We should also focus on providing gluster through Ganeti nodes (aka.
> self-configuring of gluster via ganeti node add).

I think so, too. Providing gluster through Ganeti nodes is well for me.

>
> The reason I felt that to use the qemu-gluster you need gluster as a
> primary type is that ext types are opaqua to Ganeti. As such they can
> only export "one block device" which qemu then uses. If we want to
> provide a hypervisor-specific way (like we do for gluster and ceph) we
> need for the hypervisor to be able to behave differently depending on
> the storage type, which we can't do with ext, since the backend is
> opaque then. :)
>

I am not sure about what the opaque stuffs are. However, i cannot
understand why you want the backend not to be opaque. Perhaps i
need to take a closer study for Ganeti.

--
Thanks
Harry Wei

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