On Thu, 6 Oct 2005, Peter Bodik wrote:

> The user-defined metrics are less-efficient, right? So having 1000s (from
> each host) could cause some problems ... I'd like to know what kind of
> problems we can expect and what do to about them.

Short answer: You are most likely correct

Long answer: We have been playing around with adding extra metrics for our
clusters at OSC.  Our situation is slightly different: we have a large
number of nodes with a small number of extra metrics added via gmetric
(about 5 or so per host).  But in total, this translates into about 1500
extra metrics.

For our initial testing, we kept things simple and had an hourly cron job
that reported all these metrics.  The metrics were set to expire (and
hence disappear from Ganglia) in a little over an hour.  I soon noticed
that there were always a few nodes that were missing some metrics.  But
when I checked the metrics listed by the local gmond processes on these
nodes.  The values were always there.

After several different tests, I came to the conclusion that UDP packets
were being lost when the flood of metrics came in every hour.  I decided
to add a line to my cron jobs to sleep for a random interval of 0 - 10
secs.  This helped spread out the incoming packets and alleviate the
problem.

But in your case, such a solution is not possible.  Since I don't know
what kind of hardware and networking you have, I can't say for sure that
you would see the same problem.  If adding these metrics to your Java code
isn't too much work, the best thing to do might be to just add them and
run some tests and see what happens.

--Rick

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Rick Mohr
Systems Developer
Ohio Supercomputer Center


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