Steven,

 do you see anything in the /var/log/messages of the gmetad host? Do
you insert any custom metrics via "gmetric" or other means?

Cheers
Martin

--- "Steven A. DuChene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have been struggling with a gmond process on one cluster here that
> after some indeterminate period of time marks everything else in the
> cluster as down so instead of having a clustersize (as indicqated
> from the
> ganglia python command line client) of 135, the clustersize is 1.
> I have on the advice of Richard looked at the TN verses TMAX values
> in the XML that I get from this host when I telnet to it's port 8649
> and the TN values are much bigger than the TMAX values. Richard said
> this indicated a problem but I am not sure where to go next with
> trying
> to diagnose this issue. I have ganglia running on other clusters just
> fine
> but this one cluster running 3.0.2 on RHEL4u2 seems to be having an
> issue.
> 
> Any suggestions as to what I can do to continue diagnosing the issue?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: "Steven A. DuChene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Mar 28, 2006 5:48 PM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> [email protected]
> >Subject: RE: [Ganglia-general] gmond stops recognizing the rest of
> the cluster
> >
> >Yes, I have confirmed that when this condition occurs the TN figures
> are MUCH greater
> >than the TMAX figures. I have double checked the routes and stuff is
> still there (i.e.
> >netstat returns:
> >
> >Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags   MSS Window 
> irtt Iface
> >239.2.11.71     0.0.0.0         255.255.255.255 UH        0 0       
>   0 eth0
> >
> >Where the host route for 239.2.11.71 is indeed still associated with
> the interface
> >on the internal cluster network.
> >
> >Any suggestions then?
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Sent: Mar 22, 2006 4:00 AM
> >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> [email protected]
> >>Subject: RE: [Ganglia-general] gmond stops recognizing the rest of
> the cluster
> >>
> >>Steven,
> >>
> >>if the problem is routing or actual packet loss, then that should
> be
> >>reflected
> >>by the XML output of the master gmond - the "down" host will have a
> TN
> >>(much) greater
> >>than the TMAX. e.g.:
> >>
> >><HOST NAME="ldndsm030000185.intranet.barcapint.com"
> IP="10.68.90.10"
> >>REPORTED="1143022788" TN="145" TMAX="20" DMAX="0"
> LOCATION="unspecified"
> >>GMOND_STARTED="1142870107">
> >>
> >>There is also a very small chance that what you are seeing is
> related to
> >>the "Possible bug in hosts up calculation" thread. This bug causes
> an
> >>erroneous
> >>tagging of a data source as "old", which then changes the host up
> >>calculation to be
> >>one based on the wall clock of the gmetad server. Unless all the
> clocks
> >>are right,
> >>the host_up calculation is wrong.
> >>
> >>
> >>You may try this patch:
> >>http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=15170774
> >>
> >>hope springs eternal, anyway. Myself, I only encountered the
> problem
> >>fixed here
> >>when I was federating clusters.
> >>
> >>There is also a host_up calculation in the PHP web stuff,
> ganglia.php,
> >>function host_alive.
> >>You could put debugging in there as well. 
> >>
> >>kind regards,
> >>Richard
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Steven
> >>A. DuChene
> >>Sent: 21 March 2006 23:32
> >>To: [email protected]
> >>Subject: [Ganglia-general] gmond stops recognizing the rest of the
> >>cluster
> >>
> >>
> >>I have a couple of mixed clusters here with AMD64/Opteron compute
> nodes
> >>and Intel EM64T Xeon managment nodes and I am running
> >>ganglia-gmond-3.0.2
> >>
> >>Periodically (sometimes a couple or more times a day) I check the
> stats
> >>for the clusters and the cluster running RedHatEL-4.0 has a problem
> with
> >>the master gmond process (the one running on the management server
> with
> >>interfaces on the internal cluster network and the external lan
> here).
> >>It still responds to a query (using the python ganglia client or
> through
> >>the standard front end web
> >>page) but it stops seeing the client nodes and marks them off-line.
> It
> >>will indicate that only one host (itself) is actually up. I have to
> >>constantly be watching the outputs to see if this has happened and
> when
> >>it does do a:
> >>
> >> /etc/init.d/gmond restart
> >>
> >>That clears it up until next time.
> >>
> >>Any idea what could be causing this? I have been using ganglia to
> >>monitor clusters for quite some time but this is the first time i
> have
> >>seen the gmond process needing to be restarted to regain connection
> to
> >>the data stream running around inside the cluster.
> >>
> >>BTW, I have added a line to the /etc/init.d/gmond script to add a
> host
> >>route on the system with the dual network interfaces to point
> >>239.2.11.71 to the network interface that faces to the internal
> network
> >>of the cluster.
> >>
> >>I do not seem to have this issue with the cluster that has
> RedHatEL3
> >>installed (same hardware thought). It is a smaller cluster (64
> nodes
> >>verses the 128 cluster) though.
> >>--
> >>Steven A. DuChene
> 
> 
> 
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