Aroop Maliakkal schrieb:
> It might be worth checking the disk IO... Disk IO is the main 
> constraint on monitoring clusters/grids actually.
>
> On Dec 12, 2007 5:42 PM, Markus Reusch < [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>
>     Hi list(eners),
>
>     we are using Ganglia for about 20-30 AIX-Systems. All data is
>     collected
>     on 2 LPARs which run gmetad, rrdtool and the Apache, so it's
>     accessible
>     for the users with the supplied PHP web frontend.
>     Our rrd-database has currently a size of about 400 MB and consists of
>     about 4800 files. I have no idea if this size or number of files is a
>     problem at all.
>     Every day, several users connect to the web frontend and open those
>     graphs, which results in some rrdtool calls, exhausting all the
>     available CPU time of the machine. No matter if it's just 4 rrdtool
>     processes or 20 of them. The machine is already at it's limit when
>     working with 4 rrdtool calls. When about 20 of them are started, a 2
>     digit number of kernel threads is being queued...
>     When all this occurs, you are not able to type properly in your ssh
>     session and even some shell scripts being called by cron are having
>     problems and give delayed output. This is no peak behaviour - it's
>     constantly like this.
>
>     The LPAR has AIX 5.3 with 1 * 1,7 MHz CPU and 2 GB RAM. VMM is
>     tuned and
>     machine is usually not paging at all. Not a strong machine but we
>     thought sufficient for Ganglia + rrdtool + Apache.
>
>     Other applications on the machine are not noticable, as you can
>     see (topas):
>     Name            PID  CPU%  PgSp Owner
>     rrdtool      458924  26.0   0.5 nobody
>     rrdtool      966772  25.4   0.4 nobody
>     rrdtool     1302770  23.0   3.6 root
>     rrdtool     1183858  22.4   0.4 nobody
>     gmetad      1110100   8.2   5.3 nobody
>     topas       1159188   0.6   1.7 root
>     gmond        352448   0.1   1.7 nobody
>     java         848106   0.0  16.2 root
>     sched         12294   0.0   0.4 root
>     clstrmgr     405650   0.0  22.5 root
>
>
>
>     A snippet from vmstat to see yourself (currently 4 rrdtools are
>     running):
>     kthr    memory              page              faults        cpu
>     ----- ----------- ------------------------ ------------ -----------
>      r  b   avm   fre  re  pi  po  fr   sr  cy  in   sy  cs us sy id wa
>      5  1 304078  4075   0   0   0   0    0   0 285 22896 1079 90 10
>      0  0
>      6  1 303783  4373   0   0   0   0    0   0 249 2038 787 98  2  0  0
>      6  0 304004  4145   0   0   0   0    0   0 239 17285 1001 92  8  0  0
>
>
>     Here is a sample process of rrdtool taken with ps:
>     /usr/bin/rrdtool graph --start 1197456160 --end 1197459760 --width
>     300
>     --height 75 --title weight - DEF:sum=/var/lib/ganglia/rrds/PL1650
>     Linie
>     SRZ/<somehostname>/weight.rrd:sum:AVERAGE
>     AREA:sum#0000ff:<somehostname>
>     last hour (now -1.00)
>
>     My questions:
>     Is it normal behaviour/configuration, that so many rrdtools are
>     started
>     when people are doing some requests to the web frontend?
>     Do you guys spend a "big" box just running Ganglia + rrdtool +
>     Apache or
>     maybe just a small Intel/Linux box and it runs smooth?
>
>     Any suggestions/hints are welcome, thank you in forward.
>
>     Greetings
>     Markus
>
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> Aroop
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Hi Aroop,

thank you for the hint - we don't have a disk issue. I/O wait is about 
zero and iostat shows only low traffic on the disks both on the 
percentage of time for interval being used and the bandwith and 
transfers. They are all low.
Meanwhile I found this in the archives:
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=ganglia-general&max_rows=25&style=nested&viewmonth=200712
So I am trying to compile the latest stable version of rrdtool 1.2.26.

Later
Markus

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