I agree, to the point.

I have my RRAs defined with avg, min and max values and full
resolution is not necessary for 2 whole weeks because of that. Minimum
and maximum values get preserved and I can still see when spikes or
dips have occured.

But you have to modify the frontend's graphing code to take advantage
of such feature.

b.


PS: In the beginning I was very disappointed with gmetad's graphs,
very low res, and shabby color in frontend (gray - yuck:)





On 15 December 2010 17:49, Vladimir Vuksan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I was fortunate enough to receive a response from Tobi Oetiker clearing up
> some of my misconceptions about RRD ie. you can read the response here
>
> http://vuksan.com/blog/2010/12/14/misconceptions-about-rrd-storage/#comment-7728
>
> When you update an rrd file only the data which changed is written to the
> rrd file (hence the circular buffers) ... due to the way hard diskts work,
> a whole block has to be written for every write (which is ~4096 bytes) it
> is still much less than the whole file ... run rrdtool with strace to see
> for yourself.
>
> When using rrdcached, it will collect multiple updates before writing them
> to disk. Theoretically you could see a performance improvement by a factor
> of 512 since it would only write a single block 8 * 512 bytes for 512
> updates of one 8 Byte number.
>
> Based on this input I propose we change the default storage options for
> Gmetad. Currently settings are as follows in gmetad/conf.c.in
>
>   config->num_RRAs = 5;
>   config->RRAs[0] = "RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:1:244";
>   config->RRAs[1] = "RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:24:244";
>   config->RRAs[2] = "RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:168:244";
>   config->RRAs[3] = "RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:672:244";
>   config->RRAs[4] = "RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:5760:374";
>
> I propose we change it to have full resolution for up to two weeks ie.
> 244*24*14 = 81984 and have averages for 2 years ie.
>
>   config->num_RRAs = 3;
>   config->RRAs[0] = "RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:1:81984";
>   config->RRAs[3] = "RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:672:244";
>   config->RRAs[4] = "RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:5760:748";
>
> You can still override the settings in gmetad.conf but we should start
> with higher defaults.
>
> Does this sound reasonable ?
>
> Vladimir
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