Peter Seibel wrote:

>On Dec 16, 2005, at 6:37 AM, C Y wrote:
>
>>Anyway, does the idea of a grass roots effort to contact the copyright
>>holders of the dpANS content sound like a worthwhile project?  It  
>>would
>>need to be coordinated and organized, of course, and people would have
>>to be very polite and patient when contacting people.  Any thoughts on
>>how to organize something like that?
>>    
>>
>I think in the *very* long run the idea of a "Community Lisp" is an  
>interesting one (and a great name). But I also think it needs to be  
>approached very carefully. For better or worse, the current standard  
>is the locus of a lot of strong feelings--on the one hand it is one  
>of the great strengths of Common Lisp and it was also produced at  
>great cost, both financial and emotional. So any proposal to muck  
>with it in any way is--fairly or not--going to stir up a lot of  
>strong emotions.
>  
>
I guess I don't really think the standard is the issue anyway, at least 
not for me. The primary issues for me aren't language issues but 
implementation issues, topped by threading, cross-implementation library 
installation, and environment setup.

Being a developer and not a system administrator, I feel pretty strongly 
that I shouldn't have to fight a battle every time I want to set up a 
Lisp web application development environment, worry about whether or not 
threads are supported, figure out how to install all the libraries I 
need every time, or rediscover how to integrate my platform's windowing 
system into the standalone application I'm developing.

Dave


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