Maciek Pasternacki wrote: > I see this as starting contents for ASDF+ASDF-install's site/ and > systems/ dir, that would make a framework for further tinkering, > installing more libraries, upgrading, making snapshot of current state > (think `my own batteries' tarball that would be CL-Batteries add-on > with libraries I use), etc., etc. This way, it won't be useful only > as side wheels for newbies ;)
For the lispbuilder-* project I use Edi Weitz's excellent 'Starter Pack' ( http://weitz.de/starter-pack/ ) to package and distribute all necessary libraries for Windows users; ( http://www.balooga.com/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=lispbuilder#windowstrack_1 ) It just makes things so easy. 1000x easier than trying get any kind of ASDF package working with SBCL for Windows (Good luck trying to get ASDF-INSTALL working in Windows). 10x easier than CLISP+ASDF for Windows. And probably 10x easier than the equivalent Linux install if ASDF-INSTALL is unavailable (make that 20x easier). There is almost no documentation to speak of so installation with the 'STARTER-PACK' is a no-brainer. Depending on the broadband connection and speed of PC a newbie can start from scratch, install Lispworks+'Starter Pack' and have one of the lispbuilder-sdl examples up and running in under 5 minutes. For my Linux installation instructions I assume that the user already has a Linux environment with a working ASDF-INSTALL. If not I can't be bothered trying to explain how to find the location of the ASDF directories, then where to place the ASDF packages (necessary dependencies, installation of shared binary libraries etc.) then creating symlinks to the .ASD files, etc, etc. I mean just forcing a newbie to enter (asdf:operate 'asdf:load-op :lispbuilder-sdl-examples) is like pulling the trigger twice in succession in a game of russian roulette. Too much work and scary enough to frighten newbies away so why bother. If you are a newbie using Linux with a Lisp environment with no ASDF-INSTALL then you really are up sh*t creek without a paddle. - Luke _______________________________________________ Gardeners mailing list [email protected] http://www.lispniks.com/mailman/listinfo/gardeners
