I would very much like to add a small plasma punch to our gasifier outlet. Was sharing that thought with someone at church Sunday (yesterday) and he suggested I look at welding equipment. And now here is Tom implying the same thing. Two in two days.... need to think about this more....
-brian On Jan 17, 2011, at 1:14 PM, Thomas Reed wrote: > Dear Tom, Jeff and all > > In the 1950s I Worked at the Linde Air (now Praxair) Company and was director > of welding research for a time. We had a number of physicists doing basic > research, plus a lot of applied development work. I hold several patents on > plasma torches, and am glad to see this discussion of the merits of combining > a small plasma input to aid pyrolysis. > > I hope most of this work is using graphite cathode (DC) or AC electrodes. > They are cheap, ell developed, and relatively citable compared to all others. > > Forward! > > Tom Reed - Pyrologist > > > > > > Dr Thomas B Reed > President, The Biomass Energy Foundation > www.Woodgas.com > > On Jan 17, 2011, at 9:55 AM, "Tom Miles" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Jeff, >> >> There seem to be two approaches to using plasma in biomass gasification: as >> an igniter and as a reformer. Two companies use the plasma as a super "hot >> plate" that they dump biomass onto in an updraft gasifier. This is the >> AlterNRG approach. http://www.alternrg.ca/ >> http://alternrg.com/plasma_market_solutions/biomass_to_ethanol >> They are able to make a gas that is low in oxygen and rich in CO and H2 >> while supplying only about 3% of the input energy as electricity. The rest >> is from the biomass. >> >> There are other plasma reformers coupled with updraft gasifiers. There was a >> project proposed in Canada using this approach with a PRM gasifier. >> http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org/prmemay2007 http://www.prmenergy.com/ I >> don't know if this project has snapped, crackled or popped. >> >> Los Angeles Country looked at plasma gasifiers for waste a couple of years >> go. >> http://dpw.lacounty.gov/epd/tf/Attachments/SubCommittee%20Attachments/CT_Eva >> l_Rpt_App.pdf >> >> Tom >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jeff >> Davis >> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 6:58 PM >> To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification >> Subject: Re: [Gasification] Enventix: Syngas and Biochar from Waste >> >> Dear Tom, >> >> I've often thought that a modified updraft gas producer coupled to a >> plasma reactor could be a lot of fun when working with waste feedstocks. >> >> >> Snap crackle and pop, >> >> >> Jeff >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gasification mailing list >> >> to Send a Message to the list, use the email address >> [email protected] >> >> to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page >> http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org >> >> for more Gasifiers, News and Information see our web site: >> http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > Gasification mailing list > > to Send a Message to the list, use the email address > [email protected] > > to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page > http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org > > for more Gasifiers, News and Information see our web site: > http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org/ > --------------------------------------- Indiana Renewables, LLC 6600 Karyn Drive Avon, Indiana 46123 ph: 317-272-7939 fax: 317-536-5326 _______________________________________________ Gasification mailing list to Send a Message to the list, use the email address [email protected] to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org for more Gasifiers, News and Information see our web site: http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org/
