Pete,
The current prototype will run a 4kw onan, if I get 2.5 kw out of it I will be 
happy.  I have went to great measure to build in such a way to retain and reuse 
otherwise "waste heat" and to facilitate complete automation.  The last thing I 
want is another labor or babysitting job.   I will be building My dream house 
in a few years and I plan on full integration.  I have oversized the reactor 
purpously so it can  generate gas for heat production (hydronic) and IC 
operation simultaniously as need be.
how deep the rabit hole goes as far as cost?    I expect at least 10 grand hard 
cost, said and done.  It just depends on how nice and trouble free a guy wants 
to make it.
I currently burn about 7 chords of wood in an Iron woodstove a year for heat, 
and spend about 2 grand a year for my power.  Its allot of work making 7 chords 
of firewood, at bare minimum it gets handled 4 times to make it to the stove.  
If I could heat my house buying cheap wood chips and in the meanwhile offset my 
power bill, I would be thrilled. meanwhile I would have liberated a bunch of 
time that I would rather spend tinkering with systems than on the dull end of a 
chainsaw,axe and weelborrow. 
This isn't for everyone, I have loads of time into research, years,  and have a 
full fledge fab shop at home, and have spent decades contorting metal, the last 
block of it in this prototype pursuit.  Whats my time worth?  
At the current energy costs the endevor doesn't make sense.  Call it an 
Insurance policy and it makes sense.  when is PPP? where does the path lead 
after that? If I'm successful I wont care. I own 60 acres of wooded lowland.
never try never do
Luke

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Pete&Sheri 
  To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 4:24 PM
  Subject: [Gasification] Was: DIY GtL, Now: the odd box and the house lighting


  My guess is that it was not hydrogen, rather acetylene.

  Pete Stanaitis
  ---------------------

  Luke Gardner wrote:

    <snip> 
    ---and remove this very odd metal box located outdoors, but under a large 
overhang of the attached mechanical wing.
    3. remove all of these sconce like lamps used for lighting throughout the 
place.

    <snip> 
    Me being of curious nature asked around how did these lamps work?
    no one knew...  until I asked this local old duffer running a concrete 
crew, he explained that they were gas lamps, when I inquired where they got the 
"gas" he pointed to the odd box that we were removing, he answered "from that 
hydrogen generator"  At which point my boss started chewing ass about my lack 
of work being accomplished.

    20+ years later my memory is washed clean of any of the particulars of the 
plumbing and whatnot, and I find myself building a gasifier for grid tied power 
production, with ambitions of waste heat capture for home heating, and fancy 
the idea of capture and storage for cooking, lighting, and even small scale GTL 
for personal use.
  How big is your intended grid tied power producer going to be and how much do 
you think it will cost by the time you have it tied to the grid?







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