Dear PP

Glad to have a first instance of a diesel fuel from improved pyrolysis, 
followed by esterification.  (I hope you will get a gas chromatograph 
analysis).  I wonder if there are also ethers (R-O-R) formed.  

I drive a VW TDI diesel, best car I ever owned.  

Tom Reed

Dr Thomas B Reed
President, The Biomass Energy Foundation
www.Woodgas.com

On Jun 2, 2011, at 6:16 AM, "Pannirselvam  P.V" <[email protected]> wrote:

>  Dear   Ant and all list members 
> 
>     From rapid  pyrolysis oil from sugqr cane bagasse , syntheticoil called  
> bioflex oil  was made in lab scale in Brazil from the aqueous part with 
> ethanol, they would form esters using  catalyst known of organic Fisher 
> synthesis with significant yield  and the quality of  very good quality  
> gasoline ; This oil  can be also used  as fuel in diesel engine .The yield  
> is significant  around  25 porcent of Bio oil; This not  obtained from Tar 
> distillqtion , but  this organic green chemical  can be also applied to the 
> tar distilled products obtained by tar processing 
> 
> Pannirselvam P;V
> Brazil
> 
> On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 5:48 PM, Arnt Karlsen <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, 17 May 2011 07:35:32 -0400, Thomas wrote in message
> <[email protected]>:roved
> 
> > Dear ADK and all
> >
> > AD KARVE has an interesting idea here.  I doubt if he or I have the
> > equipment to follow it up, but hope some others here may do so.
> >
> > When you tear the lignin and celluloses in wood apart during
> > pyrolysis, you briefly have a lot of VERY reactive species (free
> > radicals) desperately looking for partners.
> 
> ..that makes a lot of sense, and helps explain
> my tar vapor flare performance. :o)
> 
> > If they were supplied with a surplus of attractive partners, they
> > would make many attractive combinations, some commercial today, and
> > probably many others that would be attractive if available.
> >
> > If the diluent partner was methanol or ethanol, they would form
> > esters (perfumes) ethers, and many other interesting compounds that
> > I'm not enough organic chemist to list.
> >
> > I hope someone will give it a try...
> 
> ..bubbling those tar vapors thru soap water and waste oil, creates an
> amazingly stable emulsion with a 2 year shelf life IME, we made half
> a dozen barrels that I understand the City of Stavanger took good care
> of then they tore down the building around our experimental backyard.
> 
> ..mixed a wee bit of my goo with saw dust, sand and dirt to clean up a
> wee driveway oil slick spill, the problem was it also ate the asphalt.
> 
> >
> > Tom Reed
> >
> > Dr Thomas B Reed
> > President, The Biomass Energy Foundation
> > www.Woodgas.com
> 
> 
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> ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...
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>  best case, worst case, and just in case.
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