Dear Phillip The power generation sounds interesting.
What is the feed sock for the digester? Carbohydrates? 2 CH2O ===> CH4 + H2O. A dr, carve in India has built a small digestor that produces all the methane needed to cook the meals. I suppose a larger digester could supply the electric power too. Keep talking... Tom Reed Dr Thomas B Reed President, The Biomass Energy Foundation www.Woodgas.com On Jul 19, 2011, at 12:03 PM, phillip manske <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Tom, > > Its good to hear from you. I taught ESL in Korea for six years and > instead of coming back to the US directly, I went to Kiev and stayed > in East Europe for year. I went to Moldova, Poland and Romania too. > I lived on the money I saved while in Korea and my Fed government > pension. I was poor there and I didn't do much but work on a website > that was inspired by my Fed time. I made a large Freedom of > Information Act program and I did most of the work in cafe's with free > WiFi. > > Melitopol is in the Russian half of Ukraine, I generally like the > Ukies better than the Russians but I think the women are more > attractive. I've been to Melitopol twice already. No one visits > Melitopol, its kind of a hole. Anna is an ethnic Russian living in > Ukraine. > > http://khersongirls.com - that is the agency I recommend. Consider > all of the others as scams. I've met the owner and I've been to the > office many times. > > > If you want to get involved with my "Gold" project you are welcome. > Its gonna take some money but not much. My investor advisor says to > make the lab reactor and then the GEK scale reactor. I think the lab > reactor will look like this... > > http://www.chemglass.com/product_view.asp?pnr=CLS-1404 > > I don't want to appear as a Johnny come lately into biofuels but it > kind of looks that way. I was an electrican in the navy a long time > ago and I said I'd return to power generation if the things were > right. The concept is complicated, the practice is easy. Once the > gens run, there is no work to do. You just need to check the engines > twice a day and that takes 20 minutes max each time. You really have > the whole day off for the next fifteen years if you get a contract. > > That's whats up. > > Phillip > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 7:31 AM, Thomas Reed <[email protected]> wrote: >> So, do you have an office in Melitopol? Looks like it's close to the black >> sea. >> >> Tom >> >> Dr Thomas B Reed >> President, The Biomass Energy Foundation >> www.Woodgas.com >> >> On Jul 18, 2011, at 10:25 PM, phillip manske <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi Dr. Reed, >>> >>> Thanks for the concern. I had to pay bills for two months and then I >>> needed some cash so I can go marriage agency dates in Ukraine. I >>> lived in Ukraine for a year so I kinda know whats up. I found a woman >>> there that likes me. She looks like Meagan Fox but she has larger >>> breasts. She sells cosmetics and lives in Melitopol. I work next to >>> a corporate lake and the lake is feed by storm run off. The lake has >>> some good wildlife and I have taken to turtle rescue when the chelons >>> get stuck in the drainage pipes. I got ten already. I have a snapper >>> hatchling and hand sized softshell on a shelf by my desk. >>> >>> That's pretty cool Phil but it has nothing to with biomass. >>> >>> I don't talk about gasifiers here because I don't know Jack. >>> Sometimes you just need to shut up and listen. >>> >>> Yea so I decided I should read about the matter. >>> This book is great. >>> http://www.amazon.com/Transportation-Biofuels-Production-Biodiesel-Chemistry/dp/1849730431 >>> >>> I got an eCopy if you want to see the relevant material. The methane >>> part looks way doable and in fact I'm slowly working on that. I found >>> sciencedirect.com which has a great index and all of the papers on the >>> matter are availalbe for free at the uni library but I don't have my >>> Indiana drives lic/ID yet so its another two weeks. The papers come >>> to $4500 if I have to pay. >>> >>> I wrote an executive summary for someone at GoBig and I after I sent >>> that off they asked for an executive summary and asked a few other >>> questions. I made a good post at GEK and I got ass kissy with Mr. >>> Mason trying to amend my earlier offences. >>> >>> Whats up with you Tom? >>> >>> Warmest Regards >>> >>> Phillip >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Phillip Manske >>> 195 w Puetz Rd h-114 >>> Oak Creek WI, 53154 >>> [email protected] >>> >>> Alchemy Fuels Executive Summary >>> Saturday, July 16, 2011 >>> >>> The Energy Policy Act of 2005 has mandated that investor owned >>> utilities must provide a certain amount of the energy they provide >>> must be sourced from renewable sources. This amount has been >>> regulated to grow both now and in the future. To date, wind and solar >>> sources have been providing most of this energy while biomass sourced >>> energy has lagged. Utilities have been rejecting new applications for >>> wind and solar energies while courting biomass providers as many slots >>> are still open. Alchemy has determined a course to make low cost >>> biofuel to fulfill these requirements is a realistic and profitable >>> goal. >>> >>> After reviewing scientific literature on the matter I, (working as >>> Alchemy Fuels) have decided that a two stage reactor designed to make >>> methane is the most efficient route to a biofuel called “biogas”. >>> This method was developed early in the biofuels research efforts and >>> then abandoned in favor of ethanol and other more lucrative >>> transportation fuels. Methane is a well founded and well functioning >>> fuel for generators designed to work with natural gas. This process >>> is well reviewed and appreciated by the scientific community for its >>> ease use and lack of exotic requirements. It can be described as a >>> methane digester without the required tons of manure feedstock. The >>> research was pioneered by a scientist named Gaddy who founded a >>> company called BRI. The process is referred as the microbial catalyst >>> cellulosic fuel pathway. >>> >>> The process uses the output from gasifiers that use wood mass as a >>> feedstock. A handful of gases are provided by the gasifier with the >>> most important being carbon monoxide and the lesser gases being >>> hydrogen, carbon dioxide and methane. All of the gasses are used in >>> the process. The first stage of the process uses a bacteria called p. >>> productus that uses the CO for growth and CO2 for the production of >>> acetate which is the feedstock for the second and final stage where a >>> bacteria called m. barkeri uses the acetate and hydrogen to make >>> methane. Methane, unlike ethanol , does not need distilling which >>> saves considerable effort, energy and money. >>> >>> The market for the gas or gas use comes from the aforementioned lack >>> of biomass energy providers. Contract length is from 10 – 20 years, >>> amount of sale is typically 800 kilo watts per hour and the >>> compensation is from $.10 - $.15 per Kw hour. Providers are >>> typically allowed to provide 24 hours a day. Demand may vary but >>> demand is typically strong. Biogas contracts are generally designed >>> for methane digesters but this type of process meets the legal >>> definition of biogas even without the $1 million digester. >>> >>> This is a niche market but it can provide excellent returns and a >>> number of contracts can be signed simultaneously. Sales are assured, >>> no distribution network is required. Plants like this operate at a >>> technician level and not an engineer or scientist level. There are >>> few critical points that may induce failure. The required insurance >>> is difficult to get but I have found a provider and at least one work >>> around method. >>> >>> Plants should be located near the biomass source to save money on >>> transportation and when the gas is made, it can be shipped at much >>> less expense to the generating facilities . The plants will be >>> filled with wood biomass, gasifiers and vats that look like >>> microbrewery vats. >>> >>> Being averse to large expenditures, I recommend a modest approach to >>> first make a five gallon reactor using bottled gas, then a system >>> using a small gasifier and then finally a system scaled to produce >>> fuel at the rate to meet the 800 kwh limit. >>> >>> The described process above is worth study and investment. The >>> science is sound, the investment and risk is small, operating overhead >>> is very low and sales are guaranteed. It appears margins should be >>> very wide unlike typical margins that are available to investors. >>> >>> Questions may be directed to me at the email address above. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Phillip Manske >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 9:46 PM, Thomas Reed <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Phil >>>> I haven't heard your name for.a decade or so. What cooks in biomass? >>>> Tom Reed >>>> >>>> Dr Thomas B Reed >>>> President, The Biomass Energy Foundation >>>> www.Woodgas.com >>>> On Jul 18, 2011, at 7:04 PM, >>>> "[email protected]"<[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Gasification mailing list >>>> >>>> to Send a Message to the list, use the email address >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page >>>> http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org >>>> >>>> for more Gasifiers, News and Information see our web site: >>>> http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org/ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Gasification mailing list >>>> >>>> to Send a Message to the list, use the email address >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page >>>> http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org >>>> >>>> for more Gasifiers, News and Information see our web site: >>>> http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org/ >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Gasification mailing list >>> >>> to Send a Message to the list, use the email address >>> [email protected] >>> >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page >>> http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org >>> >>> for more Gasifiers, News and Information see our web site: >>> http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gasification mailing list >> >> to Send a Message to the list, use the email address >> [email protected] >> >> to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page >> http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org >> >> for more Gasifiers, News and Information see our web site: >> http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org/ >> > > _______________________________________________ > Gasification mailing list > > to Send a Message to the list, use the email address > [email protected] > > to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page > http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org > > for more Gasifiers, News and Information see our web site: > http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org/ _______________________________________________ Gasification mailing list to Send a Message to the list, use the email address [email protected] to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org for more Gasifiers, News and Information see our web site: http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org/
