Dear Doug, Kindly let me have the tar measurement protocol and for tar sampling techniques also. I have gone through your report it is excellent.
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(Tom Miles) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 15:07:13 -0500 > From: "chris roy"<[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Gasification] www.powerhearth.net > Message-ID: <c29b91e1-82a6-4648-afb0-0109bdd909ae@blur> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="Flowed"; > DelSp="Yes" > > > > Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless > > -----Original message----- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Sent: Wed, Dec 7, 2011 20:00:07 GMT+00:00 > Subject: Gasification Digest, Vol 16, Issue 3 > > Send Gasification mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenergy > lists.org > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Gasification digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Fluidyne Update Photos. (Thomas Reed) > 2. Re: Fluidyne Update Photos. (Pete & Sheri) > 3. Re: Fluidyne Update Photos. (doug.williams) > 4. Re: Fluidyne Update Photos. (doug.williams) > 5. gasifier type updarft use rice husk (quoc cuong Pham) > 6. Re: Fluidyne Update Photos. (Alex English) > 7. Re: Fluidyne Update Photos. (Tom Miles) > 8. Re: Fluidyne Update Photos. (Tom) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 17:24:37 -0500 > From: Thomas Reed <[email protected]> > To: "doug.williams" <[email protected]>, Discussion of > biomasspyrolysis and gasification > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Gasification] Fluidyne Update Photos. > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Dear Doug > > Your Fluidyne gasifier and Jim Masons GEK seem to be the best gasifiers > around. Do you know of any others? > > Tom Reed > > Dr Thomas B Reed > The Biomass Energy Foundation > www.Woodgas.com > > On Dec 6, 2011, at 12:25 AM, "doug.williams" <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> >> >> Hi Gasification Colleagues, >> >> The new photo file for the latest update on our Californian Development > Project, is now available to see on the Fluidyne Archive > www.fluidynenz.250x.com >> >> Hope you can all access the file, and please let me know if you have > difficulty. >> Doug Williams, >> Fluidyne Gasification. >> _______________________________________________ >> Gasification mailing list >> >> to Send a Message to the list, use the email address >> [email protected] >> >> to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page >> > http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenergy > lists.org >> >> for more Gasifiers, News and Information see our web site: >> http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org/ > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.bioenergylists.org/pipermail/gasification_lists.bioenergylists. > org/attachments/20111206/ebd577cd/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 17:30:24 -0600 > From: "Pete & Sheri" <[email protected]> > To: "'doug.williams'" <[email protected]>, "'Discussion of > biomass pyrolysis and gasification'" > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Gasification] Fluidyne Update Photos. > Message-ID: <000001ccb46f$07a00980$16e01c80$@net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Wow! What a great report. > > > > You mentioned that some of the wood chips had lots of fines. Do you > preprocess them to eliminate those fines? Are the trees debarked before > chipping? > > > > Just getting started, > > Pet e Stanaitis > > ----------------- > > > > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > doug.williams > Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 11:26 PM > To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification > Subject: [Gasification] Fluidyne Update Photos. > > > > > > > > Hi Gasification Colleagues, > > > > The new photo file for the latest update on our Californian Development > Project, is now available to see on the Fluidyne Archive > www.fluidynenz.250x.com > > > > Hope you can all access the file, and please let me know if you have > difficulty. > > Doug Williams, > > Fluidyne Gasification. > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.bioenergylists.org/pipermail/gasification_lists.bioenergylists. > org/attachments/20111206/76ec9e34/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 14:01:24 +1300 > From: "doug.williams" <[email protected]> > To: "Thomas Reed" <[email protected]>, "Discussion of > biomasspyrolysis and gasification" > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Gasification] Fluidyne Update Photos. > Message-ID: <65225E23C765467591536DC7E3B83102@dougspc> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > Hi Tom, > > Thanks for your interest: > >>Your Fluidyne gasifier and Jim Masons GEK seem to be the best gasifiers > around. > > I can only say that our current work with gasification, is repeating what > Jack Humphries and I set out to do in 1976, bring up the technology to meet > modern standards, using materials that were but a dream in 1976! As for > being the best, well, I would settle for the most reliable for whatever we > choose to do, but we are not trying to sell gasifiers to anyone at this time > > (:-) > > Do you know of any others? > > Well, that is a curly one, for some make claims of selling gasifiers which > are hard to verify. There are many offering gasifiers around the USA as I am > > sure you are aware, but to what standard other than their own marketing > hype, do they meet? All gasifiers that are offered for sale, should have a > certificate of compliance for any specific application to sort out > commercial quality systems. > > We can only hope that not to many duds get sold for inappropriate > applications. > > Doug Williams, > Fluidyne Gasification. > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.bioenergylists.org/pipermail/gasification_lists.bioenergylists. > org/attachments/20111207/f48e1f1e/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 14:16:42 +1300 > From: "doug.williams" <[email protected]> > To: "Pete & Sheri" <[email protected]>, "'Discussion of > biomass pyrolysis and gasification'" > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Gasification] Fluidyne Update Photos. > Message-ID: <27A3F5624C1446069F147718215E60A6@dougspc> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi Pete, > > You ask: > > >You mentioned that some of the wood chips had lots of fines. Do you > preprocess them to eliminate those fines? > > At this time no, because we are testing how these types of chips behave in > packed beds. It's all about surface area of the fuel changing the speed of > gas making within your chosen rage of gas outputs. The rule of thumb still > applies, finer fuels mean smaller gas outputs and or gasifier size. > >>Are the trees debarked before chipping? > > The tree tops we use are not debarked, but after drying in a log dump, much > of the bark falls off as handled. Bark in itself, is not a problem in a > gasifier, but mud and dirt in the bark, certainly can make for slag or > clinker problems. > >> Just getting started, > > You might just be ready in five years (:-) > > Doug Williams, > Fluidyne. > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.bioenergylists.org/pipermail/gasification_lists.bioenergylists. > org/attachments/20111207/07275d85/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 22:18:25 -0800 > From: quoc cuong Pham <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Gasification] gasifier type updarft use rice husk > Message-ID: > <CAKrPZoiSjE6=hukvobvtvzu_268-y9vdg8wnugups-me6cr...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > hi all! > I design updarft rice husk capacity 100kg/h.there is a problem tar > high,process > level of Moist. > Fuel use burn direct and no craking tar. > discontinuous and working gas is laborious, low-built efficency.there is > betterment which way neither. > thanks! > cuong.pq > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.bioenergylists.org/pipermail/gasification_lists.bioenergylists. > org/attachments/20111206/1c1bbeb1/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2011 06:44:46 -0500 > From: Alex English <[email protected]> > To: Discussion of biomass cooking stoves > <[email protected]>, Discussion of biomass pyrolysis > and > gasification <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Gasification] Fluidyne Update Photos. > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" > > Doug ,Tom, > > Although the dazzling blue flame is but the revealing icing on your > linear gasifier cake. I have a question about it. Did InstrumenTom > measure its exhaust? Numbers? > > "With all gas going to the flare stack, this flow of 147 scft/min made > an impressive flare roughly 2m high. In this mode, considerable > information is obtained from the flare, especially the presence of > carbon blacks, or tars, which contaminate the feathery ends of the outer > edges." > > When I see changes in the feathery ends of the outer edges, I'm inclined > to think that it is from the formation of compounds formed within an > oxygen starved portion of the flame. > If black carbons or tars where carried over from the gasifier might you > not see them glowing lower down in the flame as well? > Can you make the flare flame tips change colour by pushing it rich? > > Thanks for posting the report. > > Alex > > >> >> *Hi Gasification Colleagues,* >> ** >> *The new photo file for the latest update on our Californian >> Development Project, is now available to see on the Fluidyne Archive >> www.fluidynenz.250x.com <http://www.fluidynenz.250x.com> * >> *Hope you can all access the file, and please let me know if you have >> difficulty.* >> *Doug Williams,* >> *Fluidyne Gasification.* >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gasification mailing list >> >> to Send a Message to the list, use the email address >> [email protected] >> >> to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page >> > http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenergy > lists.org >> >> for more Gasifiers, News and Information see our web site: >> http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org/ > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.bioenergylists.org/pipermail/gasification_lists.bioenergylists. > org/attachments/20111207/7dd7431d/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 07:39:51 -0800 > From: "Tom Miles" <[email protected]> > To: "'Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification'" > <[email protected]>, "'Discussion of biomass > cooking stoves'" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Gasification] Fluidyne Update Photos. > Message-ID: <00d901ccb4f6$78d45e80$6a7d1b80$@com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Alex, > > > > I'm preparing to gasify sewage sludge in another location today but I'll > post the numbers. The gas flame is very steady and manageable. We can easily > control O2 from about 3% to 8%. NOx and CO are less than 100 ppm. > > > > Tom > > > > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Alex > English > Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 3:45 AM > To: Discussion of biomass cooking stoves; Discussion of biomass pyrolysis > and gasification > Subject: Re: [Gasification] Fluidyne Update Photos. > > > > Doug ,Tom, > > Although the dazzling blue flame is but the revealing icing on your linear > gasifier cake. I have a question about it. Did InstrumenTom measure its > exhaust? Numbers? > > "With all gas going to the flare stack, this flow of 147 scft/min made an > impressive flare roughly 2m high. In this mode, considerable information is > obtained from the flare, especially the presence of carbon blacks, or tars, > which contaminate the feathery ends of the outer edges." > > When I see changes in the feathery ends of the outer edges, I'm inclined to > think that it is from the formation of compounds formed within an oxygen > starved portion of the flame. > If black carbons or tars where carried over from the gasifier might you not > see them glowing lower down in the flame as well? > Can you make the flare flame tips change colour by pushing it rich? > > Thanks for posting the report. > > Alex > > > > > > > > Hi Gasification Colleagues, > > > > The new photo file for the latest update on our Californian Development > Project, is now available to see on the Fluidyne Archive > www.fluidynenz.250x.com > > > > Hope you can all access the file, and please let me know if you have > difficulty. > > Doug Williams, > > Fluidyne Gasification. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Gasification mailing list > > to Send a Message to the list, use the email address > [email protected] > > to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page > http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenerg > ylists.org > > for more Gasifiers, News and Information see our web site: > http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org/ > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.bioenergylists.org/pipermail/gasification_lists.bioenergylists. > org/attachments/20111207/5cb6408f/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 11:28:14 -0500 > From: Tom <[email protected]> > To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification > <[email protected]> > Cc: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification > <[email protected]>, Discussion of biomass > cooking > stoves <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Gasification] Fluidyne Update Photos. > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Alex > > The orange glow in the flame is incandescent carbon above 1000 C. So , in > cool parts of the unburied gases you don't see the soot. But where there is > > a diffusion flame with air , it lights up. > > It would be interesting to view the flme/gas structure with infra red > goggles. > > Tom Reed > > >From Tom Reed > > AKA > > Dr Thomas B Reed > 508 353 7841 > Www.Woodgas.com > > On Dec 7, 2011, at 6:44 AM, Alex English <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Doug ,Tom, >> >> Although the dazzling blue flame is but the revealing icing on your > linear gasifier cake. I have a question about it. Did InstrumenTom > measure its exhaust? Numbers? >> >> "With all gas going to the flare stack, this flow of 147 scft/min made an >> > impressive flare roughly 2m high. In this mode, considerable information is > obtained from the flare, especially the presence of carbon blacks, or tars, > which contaminate the feathery ends of the outer edges." >> >> When I see changes in the feathery ends of the outer edges, I'm inclined > to think that it is from the formation of compounds formed within an oxygen > starved portion of the flame. >> If black carbons or tars where carried over from the gasifier might you > not see them glowing lower down in the flame as well? >> Can you make the flare flame tips change colour by pushing it rich? >> >> Thanks for posting the report. >> >> Alex >> >> >>> >>> Hi Gasification Colleagues, >>> >>> The new photo file for the latest update on our Californian Development > Project, is now available to see on the Fluidyne Archive > www.fluidynenz.250x.com >>> >>> Hope you can all access the file, and please let me know if > you have difficulty. >>> Doug Williams, >>> Fluidyne Gasification. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Gasification mailing list >>> >>> to Send a Message to the list, use the email address >>> [email protected] >>> >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page >>> > http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenergy > lists.org >>> >>> for more Gasifiers, News and Information see our web site: >>> http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gasification mailing list >> >> to Send a Message to the list, use the email address >> [email protected] >> >> to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page >> > http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenergy > lists.org >> >> for more Gasifiers, News and Information see our web site: >> http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org/ > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.bioenergylists.org/pipermail/gasification_lists.bioenergylists. > org/attachments/20111207/1c1c8f06/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Gasification mailing list > > to Send a Message to the list, use the email address > [email protected] > > to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page > http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenergy > lists.org > > for more Gasifiers, News and Information see our web site: > http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org/ > > > > End of Gasification Digest, Vol 16, Issue 3 > ******************************************* > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.bioenergylists.org/pipermail/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org/attachments/20111207/58a9f822/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 20:07:46 +0100 > From: Arnt Karlsen <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Gasification] Fluidyne Update Photos. > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > On Wed, 7 Dec 2011 07:39:51 -0800, Tom wrote in message > <00d901ccb4f6$78d45e80$6a7d1b80$@com>: > >> Alex, >> >> >> >> I'm preparing to gasify sewage sludge > > ..dried? Pelletized? Rotted out before drying? > >> in another location today but >> I'll post the numbers. The gas flame is very steady and manageable. >> We can easily control O2 from about 3% to 8%. NOx and CO are less >> than 100 ppm. > > > -- > ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen > ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... > Scenarios always come in sets of three: > best case, worst case, and just in case. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 21:35:54 +0100 > From: Arnt Karlsen <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Gasification] Fluidyne Update Photos. > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > On Wed, 7 Dec 2011 11:28:14 -0500, Tom wrote in message > <[email protected]>: > >> Alex >> >> The orange glow in the flame is incandescent carbon above 1000 C. >> So , in cool parts of the unburied gases you don't see the soot. But >> where there is a diffusion flame with air , it lights up. >> >> It would be interesting to view the flme/gas structure with infra red >> goggles. > > ..an even better and cheaper way to do that, is use an IR webcam, > also allows bonuses like pix 'n videos online. IR webcam recipes: > http://www.metacafe.com/watch/847147/infrared_spy_webcam_hack/ > http://www.hoagieshouse.com/IR/ > > ..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B36MGZVhpq8 shows how > to view gasification in IR etc at a safe distance... ;o) > > ..IME IR modded webcams see heat down to about 220oC/495K/430oF, > and if you can feel significant heat from a gasifier, you need > significant IR or grey filtering to avoid the big white-out. > > ..violet, blue etc gas flames are also fun in UV. > > ..pin hole lenses gives raw UVIR light, plastic and glass lenses > filter away some UV light. If you go UVIR, visible light is only > about 40% of the light into the sensor, UV is say 5% and IR 55%. > > ..much more at: http://www.google.com/search?q=IR+webcam+hack > > -- > ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen > ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... > Scenarios always come in sets of three: > best case, worst case, and just in case. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 09:58:26 +1300 > From: "doug.williams" <[email protected]> > To: "Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification" > <[email protected]>, "Discussion of biomass > cooking stoves" <[email protected]> > Subject: [Gasification] Fluidyne Update Photos. > Message-ID: <1FACFA5EF4DF45EB9C436A40E5EC2ACD@dougspc> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > Hi Alex, > > Have to answer briefly today: > >>Although the dazzling blue flame is but the revealing icing on your linear >> gasifier cake. I have a question about it. Did InstrumenTom measure its >> exhaust? Numbers? > > The free air flare was not measured, as to freaky for emission measuring. > The emissions from the Cyclomix burner and heat exchanger were measured, and > as Tom Miles has indicated, he will post them when back in the office. > >>>"With all gas going to the flare stack, this flow of 147 scft/min made an >>> impressive flare roughly 2m high. In this mode, considerable information >>> is obtained from the flare, especially the >>presence of carbon blacks, >>> or tars, which contaminate the feathery ends of the outer edges." > >>When I see changes in the feathery ends of the outer edges, I'm inclined to >> think that it is from the formation of compounds formed within an oxygen >> starved portion of the flame. > > I'm sure that I have covered this subject previously, but if the gas and air > are not perfectly mixed before the point of ignition, then you will have the > CO reverting back to carbon and CO2 inside the high temperature flare which > is over 500C. This will show up as red tips when the carbon reaches the > outer free oxygen. > >>If black carbons or tars where carried over from the gasifier might you not >> see them glowing lower down in the flame as well? > > That is correct, but the flare behaviour changes depending if the gas is hot > or cold. Cold gas can spit condensate and tar if present, making sparkly > like flares in the flame, while hot gas will just radiate hotter (than a > clean gas), with a sting attached to it if you stand close. You also need to > know how well the gas is filtered for solid content, because carbon blacks > will show up adding redness inside the flare, and higher radiation even if > tar free. > >>Can you make the flare flame tips change colour by pushing it rich? > > The only way you can test this is to slow the gas flow right down so that it > does not blow off the end of the pipe. A lazy gas only flare in our case, is > still blue, but one might see a change in the tips if watching closely. Our > Cyclomix burner in the heat exchanger, can be run rich to give you a CO > emission, but no easy way to see in the turbulent flame, if any change of > colour takes place. > >>Thanks for posting the report. > > That's about all I am good for these day's, > > Doug Williams, > Fluidyne. > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.bioenergylists.org/pipermail/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org/attachments/20111208/4a7aa949/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 18:44:05 -0800 (PST) > From: jai balwanshi <[email protected]> > To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Gasification] Fluidyne Update Photos. > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > hello sir im preparing a gasifier horizontally oriented for different > biomass but not able to design it , can u help me? > > ? > Jai Balwanshi > Assistant Professor > Mechanical Engineering Department > VITS - Indore > Contact No. 9713281992 > > >>________________________________ >> From: Tom Miles <[email protected]> >>To: 'Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification' >> <[email protected]>; 'Discussion of biomass cooking >> stoves' <[email protected]> >>Sent: Wednesday, 7 December 2011 9:09 PM >>Subject: Re: [Gasification] Fluidyne Update Photos. >> >> >>Alex, >>? >>I'm preparing to gasify sewage sludge in another location today but I'll >> post the numbers. The gas flame is very steady and manageable. We can >> easily control O2 from about 3% to 8%. NOx and CO are less than 100 ppm. >>? >>Tom ? >>? >>From:[email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Alex >> English >>Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 3:45 AM >>To: Discussion of biomass cooking stoves; Discussion of biomass pyrolysis >> and gasification >>Subject: Re: [Gasification] Fluidyne Update Photos. >>? >>Doug ,Tom, >> >>Although the dazzling blue flame is but the revealing? icing on your linear >> gasifier cake. I have a question about it. Did InstrumenTom measure its >> exhaust? Numbers? >> >>"With all gas going to the flare stack, this flow of 147 scft/min made an >> impressive flare roughly 2m high. In this mode, considerable information >> is obtained from the flare, especially the presence of carbon blacks, or >> tars, which contaminate the feathery ends of the outer edges." >> >>When I see changes in the feathery ends of the outer edges, I'm inclined to >> think that it is from the formation of compounds formed within an oxygen >> starved portion of the flame. >>If black carbons or tars where carried over from the gasifier might you not >> see them glowing? lower down in the flame as well? >>Can you make the flare flame tips change colour by pushing it rich? >> >>Thanks for posting the report. >> >>Alex >> >> >> >> >>? >>Hi Gasification Colleagues, >>? >>The new photo file for the latest update on?our Californian Development >> Project, is now available to see on the Fluidyne Archive >> www.fluidynenz.250x.com >>? >>Hope you can all access the file, and please let me know if you have >> difficulty. >>Doug Williams, >>Fluidyne Gasification. >> >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Gasification mailing list >>? >>to Send a Message to the list, use the email address >>[email protected] >>? >>to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page >>http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org >>? >>for more Gasifiers,? 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News and Information see our web site: >>http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org/ >> >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.bioenergylists.org/pipermail/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org/attachments/20111207/2307c6f4/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 11:03:48 +0530 > From: Viswanathan KS <[email protected]> > To: jai balwanshi <[email protected]>, Discussion of biomass > pyrolysis and gasification <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Gasification] Fluidyne Update Photos. > Message-ID: > <CAP-EjV=aT5f7-_KUObk3iaQaQny_PEK=xyorsuqy3ythsty...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > When everybody is using down draft or updraft gasifier, what are your > reasons for selecting a horizontally oriented > gasifier? > > > On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 8:14 AM, jai balwanshi <[email protected]> wrote: > >> hello sir im preparing a gasifier horizontally oriented for different >> biomass but not able to design it , can u help me? >> >> Jai Balwanshi >> Assistant Professor >> Mechanical Engineering Department >> VITS - Indore >> Contact No. 9713281992 >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Tom Miles <[email protected]> >> *To:* 'Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification' < >> [email protected]>; 'Discussion of biomass cooking >> stoves' <[email protected]> >> *Sent:* Wednesday, 7 December 2011 9:09 PM >> >> *Subject:* Re: [Gasification] Fluidyne Update Photos. >> >> Alex, >> >> I'm preparing to gasify sewage sludge in another location today but I'll >> post the numbers. The gas flame is very steady and manageable. We can >> easily control O2 from about 3% to 8%. NOx and CO are less than 100 ppm. >> >> Tom >> >> *From:* [email protected] [mailto: >> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Alex English >> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 07, 2011 3:45 AM >> *To:* Discussion of biomass cooking stoves; Discussion of biomass >> pyrolysis and gasification >> *Subject:* Re: [Gasification] Fluidyne Update Photos. >> >> Doug ,Tom, >> >> Although the dazzling blue flame is but the revealing icing on your >> linear gasifier cake. I have a question about it. Did InstrumenTom measure >> its exhaust? Numbers? >> >> "With all gas going to the flare stack, this flow of 147 scft/min made an >> impressive flare roughly 2m high. In this mode, considerable information >> is >> obtained from the flare, especially the presence of carbon blacks, or >> tars, >> which contaminate the feathery ends of the outer edges." >> >> When I see changes in the feathery ends of the outer edges, I'm inclined >> to think that it is from the formation of compounds formed within an >> oxygen >> starved portion of the flame. >> If black carbons or tars where carried over from the gasifier might you >> not see them glowing lower down in the flame as well? >> Can you make the flare flame tips change colour by pushing it rich? >> >> Thanks for posting the report. >> >> Alex >> >> >> >> >> *Hi Gasification Colleagues,* >> >> *The new photo file for the latest update on our Californian Development >> Project, is now available to see on the Fluidyne Archive >> www.fluidynenz.250x.com * >> >> *Hope you can all access the file, and please let me know if you have >> difficulty.* >> *Doug Williams,* >> *Fluidyne Gasification.* >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Gasification mailing >> list >> >> >> >> to Send a Message to the list, use the email address >> >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page >> >> http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org >> >> >> >> for more Gasifiers, News and Information see our web site: >> >> http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org/ >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gasification mailing list >> >> to Send a Message to the list, use the email address >> [email protected] >> >> to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page >> >> http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org >> >> for more Gasifiers, News and Information see our web site: >> http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org/ >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gasification mailing list >> >> to Send a Message to the list, use the email address >> [email protected] >> >> to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page >> >> http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org >> >> for more Gasifiers, News and Information see our web site: >> http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org/ >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.bioenergylists.org/pipermail/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org/attachments/20111208/415a8379/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2011 01:22:47 -0500 > From: Jeff Davis <[email protected]> > To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Gasification] Fluidyne Update Photos. > Message-ID: <1323325367.1410.3.camel@jeff-laptop> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > On Wed, 2011-12-07 at 20:07 +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: >> > I'm preparing to gasify sewage sludge >> >> ..dried? Pelletized? Rotted out before drying? > > No, sounds like Tom will be cleaning out some old emails...... :) > > > > Jeff > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2011 01:34:32 -0500 > From: Jeff Davis <[email protected]> > To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Gasification] gasifier type updarft use rice husk > Message-ID: <1323326072.1410.14.camel@jeff-laptop> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Hi Cuong, > > Standard updrafts do not have a tar cracker. > > One idea that I never tried with an updraft was to take the working gas > off above the charcoal area. Next with some kind of fan suck the tarry > gas off the top and route it back up into the bottom (air inlet) of the > gas producer. Good way to tar up a fan and I doubt that it would be easy > to balance but maybe as a last resort. > > Anyhow downdrafts natural crack tar to some point. > > > Good luck, > > > Jeff > > On Tue, 2011-12-06 at 22:18 -0800, quoc cuong Pham wrote: >> hi all! >> I design updarft rice husk capacity 100kg/h.there is a problem tar >> high,process level of Moist. >> Fuel use burn direct and no craking tar. >> discontinuous and working gas is laborious, low-built efficency.there >> is betterment which way neither. >> thanks! >> cuong.pq > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 22:41:38 -0800 > From: "Tom Miles" <[email protected]> > To: "'Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification'" > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Gasification] Fluidyne Update Photos. > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > >>No, sounds like Tom will be cleaning out some old emails...... :) >>Jeff > > Precisely. High energy, enriched in nutrients, ready for recycling in the > environment. > > Tom > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Gasification mailing list > > to Send a Message to the list, use the email address > [email protected] > > to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page > http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org > > for more Gasifiers, News and Information see our web site: > http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org/ > > > > End of Gasification Digest, Vol 16, Issue 4 > ******************************************* > _______________________________________________ Gasification mailing list to Send a Message to the list, use the email address [email protected] to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org for more Gasifiers, News and Information see our web site: http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org/
