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On 12/23/11, Wayne hipkin <[email protected]> wrote: > hiya Guy s With all the THANK YOU S Going Round A Warm Thanx Another > Year of INSIGHTS And Answerd Question A Super Job + All The Work You > Guys Commit Appreciated Someone Had said they may have 50KW > Gasifier 4Sell Pls Cont Ahappy +A Merry Humble y Ever ThankFull > Has Anyone Bin Workin On Or With Canola Straw 2 Different > Redilly Available Fuels Beetle kill Pine + Rape Straw Bless Ya > Again > > On 12/22/11, [email protected] > <[email protected]> wrote: >> Send Gasification mailing list submissions to >> [email protected] >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> >> http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org >> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> [email protected] >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> [email protected] >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Gasification digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. 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' ?\.?*./______/~?*????*??*?*? ??*? >> *(...'?'.. ) *????????.????????????*????*??* ? >> >> Mele Kalikimaka, Happy Hanukkah, and have a great Kwanzaa. >> Houoli makahiki hou! >> >> Aloha, >> Warner Kimo Sutton CEO >> Diamond Head Renewable Resources >> www.diamondheadrr.com >> >> On Dec 22, 2011, at 7:44 AM, Tom Miles wrote: >> >> >> <image001.jpg> >> Many thanks to all who have participated on these Bioenergylists.org >> discussion lists. >> >> Tom Miles >> Erin Rasmussen >> Owner and Sponsor of Bioenergylists.org >> >> T R Miles Technical Consultants, Inc. >> Portland, OR >> [email protected] >> www.trmiles.com >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gasification mailing list >> >> to Send a Message to the list, use the email address >> [email protected] >> >> to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page >> http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org >> >> for more Gasifiers, News and Information see our web site: >> http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org/ >> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> <http://lists.bioenergylists.org/pipermail/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org/attachments/20111222/21ea1fc1/attachment-0001.html> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 15:11:14 -0600 >> From: Richard Bockwinkel <[email protected]> >> To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification >> <[email protected]> >> Cc: 'For Discussion of Anaerobic Digestion' >> <[email protected]>, 'Discussion of biomass cooking >> stoves' <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [Gasification] Happy Holidays >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> Thanks and same to you and all on the LIST!!! >> >> >> Richard Bockwinkel >> ERB & Associates, Inc. >> >> 913.579.7688 >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> >> On Dec 22, 2011, at 11:44 AM, Tom Miles wrote: >> >>> >>> <image001.jpg> >>> Many thanks to all who have participated on these Bioenergylists.org >>> discussion lists. >>> >>> Tom Miles >>> Erin Rasmussen >>> Owner and Sponsor of Bioenergylists.org >>> >>> T R Miles Technical Consultants, Inc. >>> Portland, OR >>> [email protected] >>> www.trmiles.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Gasification mailing list >>> >>> to Send a Message to the list, use the email address >>> [email protected] >>> >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page >>> http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org >>> >>> for more Gasifiers, News and Information see our web site: >>> http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org/ >> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> <http://lists.bioenergylists.org/pipermail/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org/attachments/20111222/6446c9f8/attachment-0001.html> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >> Name: Merry Christmas.gif >> Type: image/gif >> Size: 276949 bytes >> Desc: not available >> URL: >> <http://lists.bioenergylists.org/pipermail/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org/attachments/20111222/6446c9f8/attachment-0001.gif> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 14:17:08 -0800 >> From: Thomas Reed <[email protected]> >> To: Tom Reed <[email protected]>, Discussion of biomass pyrolysis >> and gasification <[email protected]>, >> STOVES >> <[email protected]>, Chuck Stevenson >> <[email protected]> >> Subject: [Gasification] Weight, power and temperature Tests >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> Dear Gasers and Stovers >> >> Someone asked recently how hot the TLUD stoves got during operation. I >> made >> a number of tests below on gasifying several fuels. The highest >> temperature >> I measured during the pyrolysis operation with the Cen-Tech IR pyrometers >> was 190 C. However, when the yellow flame disappeared and charcoal was >> gasifying the temperature rose to 350C. >> >> MESQUITE, LIGNIN, AND PINE TLUD PYROLYSIS >> >> THE FOLLOWING FUELS WERE BURNED IN A 4" D X 6" TALL TLUD STOVE AND THE >> WEIGHT CHANGE RECORDED. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Note: The tests were done on a scale weighing to 1/2 g and time recorded >> every minute. >> >> Dry wood typically has an energy content of 21 kJ/g. However in the TLUD >> stove only the cellulose contributes is vaporized, approximately 16 kJ/g >> of >> weight loss, while the lignin is carbonized to charcoal. >> >> MESQUITE >> Mesquite is said to have a very high lignin content, compared to other >> woods, 64%! >> If lignin is the precursor of charcoal, mesquite should give a very high >> yield of charcoal. >> >> 152 g of mesquite chips were placed in the Wanderer stove and ignited >> with >> the propane torch. >> >> Time. Weight. DW (weight change) >> 0. 152 >> 1. 141. 11 Mesquite Chunks too big, requires >> lots of ignition with propane torch >> 2. 135. 14 >> 3. 128. 7 >> 4. 121. 7 >> 5. 110. 11 >> 6. 98. 12 >> 7. 86. . 12. Highest Temperature with >> Cen-Tech >> IR pyrometers 190 C. >> 8. 72. 14 >> 9. 60. 12 >> 10. 46. 14 >> 11. 34.5. 11.5 >> 12. 21. 13.5 >> 13. 9. 12. End of yellow flame, put charcoal in >> can and weighed >> >> Yield: 38 g ==> 38/152= 25.0% >> >> COMMENT - this is a High charcoal yield, but not enormous. The pine >> chunks >> below yielded 15% charcoal. >> >> <><><><> >> >> Same experiment with lignin chunks from a brown forest lignin log broken >> up >> by hand. Incredibly light. Probably the first time anyone ever gasified >> pure lignin - and maybe the last. It is a very low density fuel, since >> all >> the cellulose was eaten by microorganisms. >> >> >> Time wt. dW >> 0. 54 >> 1. 47. 7 >> 2. 40. 7 >> 3. 32.5. 7.5 Some soot in flame >> 4. 27.5. 5 >> 4.5. 26. 1.5 Yellow out >> >> Yield 6.5 g, 12%. >> >> I have long believed that it is the lignin that is the precursor to >> charcoal. >> This experiment suggeststhis is probably not true. >> >> <><><><> >> >> Pine block - Wanderer >> >> 3/4 sq x1" pine blocks >> >> 0. 96.5. dW >> 1. 89. 7.5 >> 2. 85. 4.0 >> 3. 80.5. 4.5 >> 4. 76 4.5. Can maximum temperature 190C. >> 5. 71. 5 >> 6. 65. 6 >> 7. 57. 8 >> 8. 51.5. 5.5 >> 9. 46. 6.5 >> 10. 39. 7 Flame low >> 11. 31.5. 7.5 Flame much higher, end effect >> 12. 22. 9.5 big fire >> 13. 13. 9 All block surfaces on fire, >> but >> centers still outgasing >> 14. 5.5. 7.5 Can temp 350 with Cen-Tech IR >> pyrometers >> >> 15 g charcoal = 15.5% >> >> Note: dry wood has a typical heat of combustion of 21 kJ/g, so complete >> combustion would generate (21000/60) 350 Watts/Gm-min. >> >> However in the TLUD this is reduced to maybe 16 kJ/Gm-min or 270 >> Watts/g-min, because mostly cellulose and water are volatilized and the >> remaining charcoal generates 26 kJ/g, or 433 W/g-min. >> >> So a burn rate of 12 g/min would yield a (270 X 12) 3.2 kW flame. >> Fuel bed 4"D x 3" deep >> >> I hope this information is useful, but needs digesting. >> >> Tom Reed >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> <http://lists.bioenergylists.org/pipermail/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org/attachments/20111222/181a74ff/attachment.html> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >> Name: image.jpeg >> Type: image/jpeg >> Size: 49205 bytes >> Desc: not available >> URL: >> <http://lists.bioenergylists.org/pipermail/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org/attachments/20111222/181a74ff/attachment.jpeg> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >> Name: image.jpeg >> Type: image/jpeg >> Size: 41329 bytes >> Desc: not available >> URL: >> <http://lists.bioenergylists.org/pipermail/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org/attachments/20111222/181a74ff/attachment-0001.jpeg> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gasification mailing list >> >> to Send a Message to the list, use the email address >> [email protected] >> >> to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page >> http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org >> >> for more Gasifiers, News and Information see our web site: >> http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org/ >> >> >> >> End of Gasification Digest, Vol 16, Issue 16 >> ******************************************** >> > _______________________________________________ Gasification mailing list to Send a Message to the list, use the email address [email protected] to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org for more Gasifiers, News and Information see our web site: http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org/
