Hi Jim and Gasification Colleagues.

You may be interested in a couple of points about this NZ Company:


http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/energy/2012/01/12019-range-lanzatech-cellulosic-biofuel-ethanol/

>lanza tech wants to do microbes after the gasification section, vs the
>catalyst route of range fuels. 

Lanzatech use their microbes to make liquid fuels from emission CO. Their idea 
was to capture CO from steel mills, but as a NZ company, we have only one 
steelmill in the country. Have you any idea how complicated it is to get 
permission to collect CO emission gas from a working steel mill for 
experimentation? Steel mill emissions are by the way free from condensable 
hydrocarbons, so there was a lot of ignorance at that time of the tar issues of 
using producer gas from biomass.

Looking for a source of CO, they were referred to me by Canterbury University 
as a potential supplier of CO via producer gas, in the first order to develop 
enough of the microbes for commercial testing. It was this project that 
motivated me to assemble the stored Pioneer Class gasification system, and for 
the first time ever (for me), purchase a small compressor to pump up new LPG 
cylinders to 120 psi, so they could start their test programme. They ran into 
all sorts of problems of having gas stored in unspecified cylinders, and 
storing gas at a city laboratory without the required permits.  I reported this 
project to the Gasification List at the time, but was never given follow up 
progress reports as promised after they got the gas. Needless to say I never 
heard from them again, and they still owe me the $300 agreed to for all the 
time I spent getting them started.

> but still the gasifier needs to work,
>which was the primary problem on the frist go.  where were we again in
>understanding the problem they had with the gasifier?

 You find that most projects would not even get off the ground if expertise was 
applied to scrutinize the type of technologies involved. Gasifiers are 
presented as quite wondrous processes, and the less informed are swept up in an 
enthusiastic wave of support for something in which they have no clear 
understanding. The Range Fuels technologists proved no smarter than any other 
group claiming to have revolutionary processes to make liquid fuels from 
producer gas, probably described as syngas in  their successful proposals for 
funding. If my memory is correct, the gasifier is a recirculating fluidized bed 
system that does not make a tar free gas.

>lanzatech points out they do not understand gasifiers, and plant to
>spend a minimal amount to see if they can get the current gasifier
>operational, before bringing in another.

The cheaper producer gas CO made from biomass, is "not" quite so easy to make 
using inappropriate gasification technologies, and the need for a tar free gas 
for compressing in substantial quantities will be a challenge. Their admitted 
ignorance of gasification technology should at least wave a red flag of warning 
to their investors.

Having said that, hope they can make it work before someone else's money runs 
out (:-)

Doug Williams,
Fluidyne Gasification.

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