So what basically was the problem? Seems like if it were done right there would be a profit. > From: [email protected] > Subject: Gasification Digest, Vol 28, Issue 6 > To: [email protected] > Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 12:00:36 -0800 > > Send Gasification mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Gasification digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. ICM gasifier project comes to a close (Tom Miles) > 2. Re: ICM gasifier project comes to a close (Mark Ludlow) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 10:08:46 -0800 > From: "Tom Miles" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]>, "Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and > gasification" <[email protected]> > Subject: [Gasification] ICM gasifier project comes to a close > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > The article below demonstrates how difficult it Is to convert urban residues > to heat, power and biochar in today's economy. > > > > I observed that technically the ICM gasifier worked very well. The ICM > gasifier can take wood, straw or corn stover and convert it to gas and > biochar in various proportions. It makes a good quality biochar that has > been tested in various locations. I was impressed by the fuel flexibility. > > > > The economic challenges are manifold: if it is not feasible to generate and > sell heat or power and biochar at one location then you can't generate the > cash flow necessary to run the plant. We hope that Bert Bennett and his > team at ICM can find a suitable customer. > > > > Tom > > > > ICM gasifier project comes to a close > > By Ashley Bergner Newton Kansan > > December 20. 2012 11:00AM > > > <http://www.google.com/url?sa=X&q=http://www.thekansan.com/article/20121220/ > NEWS/121229996&ct=ga&cad=CAcQARgBIAEoBDAAOABAzqHNhgVIAVgAYgJlbg&cd=mAamQLVPr > YU&usg=AFQjCNGqPGDj3bZoRcalSu1ANFxADLmT9A> > www.thekansan.com/article/20121220/NEWS/121229996 > > > > > > The decommissioning of ICM's prototype gasifier at the Harvey County > Transfer Station marks an end - or at least a postponement - of the county's > vision of a viable waste-to-energy system. > At Monday's county commission meeting, officials announced the project would > be coming to a close, and within six months, all the equipment will be taken > down. > > > > "It would bring to a halt our hopes ... of what would be a waste-to-energy > facility," said John Waltner, county administrator. > ICM's Biomass Gasification System, also known as a "gasifier," burns trash > and converts it to synthetic gas, which can be used to generate power in > industrial and commercial settings. ICM tested thousands of tons of > different types of waste, which are referred to as "feedstocks." Feedstocks > tested included wood chips, wheat straw and refuse-derived fuel (this > includes junk mail, cardboard and other paper products thrown away). > > > > Using a gasifier to convert Harvey County trash into energy had once > appeared to be a possibility. The Harvey County facility likely would have > needed to burn 90 tons of trash per day, a number officials had thought the > county could reach. > ICM plans to try to market the technology in a different area, perhaps > overseas. > Despite the county's disappointment the project wasn't ultimately viable > here in Harvey County, they said their experience working with ICM was > positive. > > > > "It really has been just a terrific exercise for us," Waltner said. > > > > Commission chair Marge Roberson agreed."It feels really good that Harvey > County had the tenacity to push to take a good, hard look at doing something > with trash other than putting it in the ground," she said. "I absolutely do > not regret any moment we've spent with this partnership." > > > Waltner does believe the technology will be prove to be viable in the > future. > > > > "They're going to be successful," he said of the company. "This is something > that's going to happen." > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.bioenergylists.org/pipermail/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org/attachments/20121220/5ecee0fd/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 10:43:37 -0800 > From: "Mark Ludlow" <[email protected]> > To: "'Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification'" > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Gasification] ICM gasifier project comes to a close > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Any other state except a Red State mostly believing in Creationism and > totally disbelieving in AGW would have seen that this experiment continued. > What a shame! > > > > You can take a horse to water but you can't make it drink! > > > > Mark > > > > From: Gasification [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Tom Miles > Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 10:09 AM > To: [email protected]; Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and > gasification > Subject: [Gasification] ICM gasifier project comes to a close > > > > The article below demonstrates how difficult it Is to convert urban residues > to heat, power and biochar in today's economy. > > > > I observed that technically the ICM gasifier worked very well. The ICM > gasifier can take wood, straw or corn stover and convert it to gas and > biochar in various proportions. It makes a good quality biochar that has > been tested in various locations. I was impressed by the fuel flexibility. > > > > The economic challenges are manifold: if it is not feasible to generate and > sell heat or power and biochar at one location then you can't generate the > cash flow necessary to run the plant. We hope that Bert Bennett and his > team at ICM can find a suitable customer. > > > > Tom > > > > ICM gasifier project comes to a close > > By Ashley Bergner Newton Kansan > > December 20. 2012 11:00AM > > > <http://www.google.com/url?sa=X&q=http://www.thekansan.com/article/20121220/ > NEWS/121229996&ct=ga&cad=CAcQARgBIAEoBDAAOABAzqHNhgVIAVgAYgJlbg&cd=mAamQLVPr > YU&usg=AFQjCNGqPGDj3bZoRcalSu1ANFxADLmT9A> > www.thekansan.com/article/20121220/NEWS/121229996 > > > > > > The decommissioning of ICM's prototype gasifier at the Harvey County > Transfer Station marks an end - or at least a postponement - of the county's > vision of a viable waste-to-energy system. > At Monday's county commission meeting, officials announced the project would > be coming to a close, and within six months, all the equipment will be taken > down. > > "It would bring to a halt our hopes ... of what would be a waste-to-energy > facility," said John Waltner, county administrator. > ICM's Biomass Gasification System, also known as a "gasifier," burns trash > and converts it to synthetic gas, which can be used to generate power in > industrial and commercial settings. ICM tested thousands of tons of > different types of waste, which are referred to as "feedstocks." Feedstocks > tested included wood chips, wheat straw and refuse-derived fuel (this > includes junk mail, cardboard and other paper products thrown away). > > Using a gasifier to convert Harvey County trash into energy had once > appeared to be a possibility. The Harvey County facility likely would have > needed to burn 90 tons of trash per day, a number officials had thought the > county could reach. > ICM plans to try to market the technology in a different area, perhaps > overseas. > Despite the county's disappointment the project wasn't ultimately viable > here in Harvey County, they said their experience working with ICM was > positive. > > "It really has been just a terrific exercise for us," Waltner said. > > Commission chair Marge Roberson agreed."It feels really good that Harvey > County had the tenacity to push to take a good, hard look at doing something > with trash other than putting it in the ground," she said. "I absolutely do > not regret any moment we've spent with this partnership." > > > Waltner does believe the technology will be prove to be viable in the > future. > > "They're going to be successful," he said of the company. "This is something > that's going to happen." > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.bioenergylists.org/pipermail/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org/attachments/20121220/93821731/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Gasification mailing list > > to Send a Message to the list, use the email address > [email protected] > > to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page > http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org > > for more Gasifiers, News and Information see our web site: > http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org/ > > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Gasification Digest, Vol 28, Issue 6 > *******************************************
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