Dear Doug and all:

The Toplit Updraft gasifier produces a different gas (plus 20% charcoal, mostly 
from the lignin) than the downdraft gasifier.  I believe it may be a cleaner 
gas, since cellulose (~ CH2O) vaporizes to produce a different gas (CO + H2 + 
?) than the lignin.  

As soon as we get some warm weather, I'll try to measure the tar content from 
each, using my 2 kW generator and a 5 gal tar filter made from the charcoal.   

Comments, suggestions? 

Thomas B Reed 
280 Hardwick Rd
Barre, MA 01005

508 353 7841

On Feb 3, 2013, at 1:01 AM, Jeff Davis <[email protected]> wrote:

> Another way to look at this is to say that the problem is not with the gas 
> producer BUT with the engine style used.
> 
> An IC engine needs clean gas and most gas producers have a problem producing 
> clean gas.
> 
> If something like a steam engine was used the gas and all by products could 
> be burned.
> 
> On one hand a boiler can explode but a tar pond can last many years. Pick 
> your poison, so to speak..
> 
> Would it be easer to design a safer boiler ? ? ?
> 
> Any engineers out there up to it ? ? ?
> 
> 
> 
> Turning the equation upside down,
> 
> 
> Jeff
> 
> 
> 
> On 02/02/2013 11:52 PM, doug.williams wrote:
>> People desperate for electrical power in poor developing countries, are not 
>> aware or interested in how the power is made, or what the operator does with 
>> his cooling ponds. The stink usually is enough to warn you about these 
>> issues, but people including yourself, whom I assume is well educated, need 
>> to be better informed of environmental issues regarding condensate.  We wave 
>> a red flag like the man walking in front of the first Cars, creates 
>> awareness that a dangerous change in water use is in progress, and 
>> responsible management is required. Water scrubbers draws our attention 
>> calling for close scrutiny. No more, no less, hence, these interesting 
>> exchanges taking place on this Forum.
> 
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