Hello Roland, 

Thank you for the information about your process.
Is your process a "slow" pyrolysis reaction? 

If so the bio- oil is a substantially different product then the "fast" 
pyrolysis oil that some companies are trying to convert to motor fuel . 

Am I correct that you are combusting this oil for thermal energy and not 
attempting to run a motor ?

Are you making an aqueous phase also? If so, are you finding use for this "wood 
vinegar" ?

I have a gasification/ pyrolytic hybrid that I built and can make a slow pyro 
oil in my process. I am currently pouring the oil onto some of  the feedstock 
going into the gasifier  and boosting my fuel btu ( and getting rid of that 
oil).

John Miedema
BioLogic Carbon
Philomath, Oregon 
 
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> On Mar 28, 2014, at 3:17 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Dear List,
> 
> That is very bad news about Fortum indeed.
> 
> In his reaction, Tom Reed wrote very negatively about pyrolysis oil. In my 
> view that is not correct.
> 
> Let us hope that the cause of the accident will be analyzed successfully. For 
> Fortum, and others, pyrolysis oil is a main product. But for others it is an 
> an unavoidable by-product. In any case for most industrial charcoal 
> manufacturers. In our demonstration plant, employing our new charcoal 
> manufacturing technology, we make pyrolysis oil in addition to charcoal. Ball 
> park indications, recalculated to the dry basis of all materials involved 
> (dry basis outputs / dry basis inputs, and changing with process temperature 
> management): 38 m% dry charcoal, 15 m% liquid, 47 m% gas. All of the gas can 
> be combusted for heat and/or power, but it would be a waste to do the same 
> with the liquid.
> 
> That is, immediate conversion of the liquid would be a waste. In our case we 
> wanted to be able to at least use part of the pyrolysis liquid to sustain our 
> carbonisation process, but not immediately upon production. Rather postponed, 
> and only when needed (the rest of the liquid may find other uses anyway). So, 
> we like pyrolysis oil as an energy buffer.
> 
> It turned out that affordable combustion equipment at our scale (50-100 kW) 
> is not available in the market. The fouling and coking behaviour of this 
> liquid is a killer.
> 
> Last week we were able to crack it, with a new fuel injection technology. The 
> official announcement is attached. The technology makes wider use of 
> pyrolysis oils a lot easier.
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Roland Siemons
> 
> 
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