Dear Jason,
Many inventors assume that they have but a single chance to strike "paydirt" but actually there are many. Having a worked-out design means relatively little. Transforming that design to a net positive cash flow is more and making a profit is the next step. Capitalism is about risk and unless you have the intellectual and financial resources to go it alone you will need partners.both financial and technological. Just pick well! (but get used to the inevitability!) Best, Mark From: Gasification [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jason Sent: Friday, December 27, 2013 12:29 PM To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification Subject: Re: [Gasification] Results of wood burning contest Fwd: December Wood Heat Newsletter Thanks Tom and Mark, Tom I have to be careful with disseminating too much information as there is a lot of time an money invested in this and it is yet to make a return. For the moment I don't have an income so I need it to work. I don't think it would take too much for a man or your calibre to work it out, the design itself is really simple but then it took me two years to get it that way. Once my financial position is assured I will disseminate more information but PM me if you want more detail that I provide here. In terms of stoves it turns an old stove into downdraft and that is nothing new, Lopi and Vermont Castings have downdraft models. One of the keys to the clean burn is through getting the combustion temperature closer to adiabatic through the configuration, I believe it is this that helps consume all the carbon monoxide. Although with downdraft it can be prone to picking up a bit of ash. The trick is in the tuning and I learnt a lot more about that at the Decathlon as that was the first time I have had a gas analyser on it. Since the Decathlon I have had ideas on how to improve it further so more R&D is ahead, but the basic unit works pretty well. What I did just before the Decathlon is purpose build a prototype stove for burning wet wood. This was done at the request of a businessman interested in my technology and had done some of his own evaluation on the retrofit (subject to an NDA). The retrofit has the added bonus of permitting the use of damp wood, or up to 30% moisture content, so this businessman requested I try to push this further to suit the unseasoned wood that is available on his local market. Unfortunately wet wood performance wasn't measured at the Decathlon or the result may have been very different. The prototype I have will burn wood at 45% moisture content with no visible smoke. Both versions do of course require warming up on dryer wood. What I want to test next is whether I can also get the damp/wet wood performance to zero as well. In terms of emissions I see wet wood performance in a retrofit as a real way forward, especially given estimates of between 7 & 10 million older wood stoves in the USA alone. I haven't yet seen a way forward for a TLUD application unless it is fan assisted but my mind is always full of ways to try and improve various types of combustion. One think you, or someone else, may be able to help with that I have been seeking an answer for is the energy balance when wood derived steam is passed through the charcoal bed but then the resultant gases burnt in situ. I am a designer rather than a scientist or engineer so that one is beyond my high school chemistry. Kind Regards Jason On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 7:03 PM, Tom Miles <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: Jason, Well done. How does I work? Tom From: Gasification [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> ] On Behalf Of Jason Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 8:51 PM To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification Subject: Re: [Gasification] Results of wood burning contest Fwd: December Wood Heat Newsletter As a subscriber and reader of these lists for some years now I feel it is appropriate to comment on this topic since I was a finalist in this contest with The IntensiFire technology. I was contemplating a reply but given the relevant thread started by Ken Boak I thought I had better jump in sooner rather than later. http://forgreenheat.blogspot.co.nz/2013/12/a-brief-analysis-of-stoves-at-woo d.html?utm_source=December+13+Newsletter <http://forgreenheat.blogspot.co.nz/2013/12/a-brief-analysis-of-stoves-at-wo od.html?utm_source=December+13+Newsletter&utm_campaign=december+Newsletter&u tm_medium=email> &utm_campaign=december+Newsletter&utm_medium=email What will be of interest to you all is that one of the judges recognised The IntensiFire for what it is, and what I intended it to be, a gasifier within a stove. The stove I retrofitted for the Decathlon was an old Treemont, perhaps 30+ years old, and was destined for the scrap metal dealer. It was problematic for me as it was 2.5x larger than any wood stove I had worked with before and I spent the entire contest tuning it. The 8" flue was also new, having previously only worked with 150mm. My best performance was delivered on the last day and unfortunately as I had operated the stove was not an independent test so don't believe it is reflected in the judging. That test produced zero emissions using the Testo 380, I don't have the official results back yet from Brookhaven National Laboratory but am keen to get my hands on it. Zero meaning zero particulates and zero carbon monoxide, or as Trevor Gionet described it "perfect combustion"(screen shot available). The test was of course only a 15 minute sample from a batch burn but in this instance the insane stack temperatures mean the gas analyser overheated at around the 12 minute mark. I am glad you posted the link Paul as it was one that I had missed. I had believed that the crazy stack temperatures had hurt the efficiency figures, but to beat out the 82% certified stoves in this category was satisfying. It seems there may well be a future for this technology but I am learning all the time, these lists are of course a part of my education :-) Great work by John Ackerly in putting the event together. Both Popular Mechanics and National Geographic published the results. http://www.popularmechanics.com/home/improvement/energy-efficient/woodstock- soapstone-captures-the-wood-stove-decathlon-grand-prize-16180264?click=main_ sr http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/energy/2013/11/131120-wood-stove-dec athlon-winners/ Regards Jason On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 5:35 AM, Paul Anderson <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: Dear all, The message below gives you links to a variety of internet sources for learning about the results of the very well organized competition (The Wood Stove Decathelon) about improvements for clean efficient burning of cordwood (only cordwood). It is not specific about gasification. It is not specific about stoves for developing societies. It is not about devices that make biochar. But I think and hope that many readers will find useful information. There were 12 contestants. For a short summary, the top 6 devices in each of 7 ratings are discussed in: http://forgreenheat.blogspot.com/2013/12/a-brief-analysis-of-stoves-at-wood. html?utm_source=December+13+Newsletter <http://forgreenheat.blogspot.com/2013/12/a-brief-analysis-of-stoves-at-wood .html?utm_source=December+13+Newsletter&utm_campaign=december+Newsletter&utm _medium=email> &utm_campaign=december+Newsletter&utm_medium=email The lead sponsor of the competition is the Alliance for Green Heat, at this website: http://www.forgreenheat.org PLEASE REPLY ONLY TO YOUR RESPECTIVE LISTSERVS AND ONLY ABOUT TOPICS IMPORTANT FOR THAT LISTSERV. Paul Doc / Dr TLUD / Prof. Paul S. 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