There’s a R&B lyric that has a line to the effect: “Nuthin’ from nuthin’ leaves 
nuthin’”.

A good idea? Potentially worth billions. Realistically, ain’t worth doo-doo. 
Idea people are crushed to hear this because they do not understand the 
marketplace of ideas. People go to Wharton and Harvard and Stanford to make 
“angel” connections; to raise that first ½-mil. Then, they need that management 
team. Don’t forget Social Media Presence (these days!)

 

Anybody on this list make it on their own? Other than cutting and welding and 
making good journeyman wages?

 

Best wishes for success to all. (Been there!)

Mark

 

From: Gasification [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Jason
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 1:30 PM
To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification 
<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Gasification] [Stoves] Request for proposals: Medical Waste 
Incinerator for Humanitarian Emergencies from Innocentive

 

Hi Paul,

you are quite correct to point out about reading the fine print. For the same 
reasons of compromising my intellectual property rights I did not enter the 
woodstove retrofit challenge. 
http://www.pscleanair.org/priorities/woodheating/woodstoveprogram/Pages/WSChallenge.aspx

This was all explained to them in length, both in email and on the phone. That 
is quite unfortunate because none of the finalists have combustion improving 
technology, which is the category my IntensiFire falls into, but simply 
different ways of dealing with stack emissions. 

The prize of more testing didn't appear to be helpful in pushing the technology 
toward certification either, testing is no good without an objective to meet. I 
still have your counsel in my head Paul regarding testing.

 

On a more philosophical note I will say that this scenario highlights the 
weakness of science, considered by many to be the holy grail of civilisation as 
we know it. A contest, or a stove test, is a bit like a science experiment. The 
outcome of an experiment can only be as good as the person that designed that 
experiment.  Add in a good dose of genuflection and you have a new established 
"fact" or "winner" that could in fact be highly questionable.  

 

Kind Regards

Jason

 

On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 12:40 AM, Paul Anderson <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

To all,

If you are considering doing this, you should first check the details about 
what you are giving up if you should happen to win.   This is akin to the 
Virgin Earth Challenge.   THEY end up with a set of rights and the proposer 
gets some money.   But if you do not win, they still have some lingering rights 
that you might not like.

Paul



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Skype: paultlud      Phone: +1-309-452-7072 <tel:%2B1-309-452-7072> 
Website:  www.drtlud.com <http://www.drtlud.com> 

On 9/6/2015 6:15 AM, Michal Usowicz wrote:

Hey everyone,

I thought this might be right up your guys' alley.  Innocentive is a website 
that organizations can post design challenges with rewards for proposals that 
they accept.  There was recently a post for a portable, durable medical waste 
incinerator.  Check it out if you think you may have a good contribution to 
make.  


https://www.innocentive.com/ar/challenge/9933340


NOTE: I have nothing to do with this proposal/request.  I'm just forwarding it 
to you guys.  

Best, 

Michal Usowicz

 

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