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Mark Elliott Ludlow <[email protected]> wrote: >I agree with Leland “Tom” Taylor completely. My last project was a DDS >(Distributed Control System) and we employed 19, μ-controllers >(microcontrollers), that had digital and analog IO, math primitives, plenty of >power and were interconnected by plain old Ethernet. Data collection and >storage was a no-brainer. Software development could proceed a subsystem at a >time. I would never do anything different, unless I were stuck in a 1970 time >warp. We used 19” touch screen monitors, placed wherever they were needed. >Histograms of process performance (stability, rate, energy usage, etc.) were >available anywhere, including my living room sofa. > >On a later project in MX I used a Siemens Simatic system. Is was much less >flexible, cost at least four-times as much and had distributed I/O collectors >but not distributed process management intelligence. Tons more wiring. No >redundancy. Proprietary architecture. Mostly much slower but that’d not be as >much an issue on a gasifier as it may be on motion control. And Siemens was >years ahead of U.S offerings, who only until relatively only offered archaic >Ladder Logic programming tools. > >Best, Mark > > > >From: Gasification [mailto:[email protected]] On >Behalf Of [email protected] >Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2016 7:40 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [Gasification] Scada > > > >or as those are obsolete, go with a laptop with touch screen a USB port, a >two wire or wireless interface to your sensors and control devices and a >program that runs on your computer that doesn't need to be programed like the >plc. > >Sorry to hear that there are those out there who are still using the archaic >plc architecture as it only makes for more work. > >Sincerely, > >Leland T. "Tom" Taylor > >Thermogenics Inc. > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Roland Siemons <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > >To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification ><[email protected] ><mailto:[email protected]> > >Sent: Thu, Apr 21, 2016 8:03 am >Subject: Re: [Gasification] Scada > >Thanks, Manova! > >Greetz, > >Roland > > > >Clean Fuels B.V. >Mail to: c/o University of Twente >PO Box 217 >7500 AE Enschede >The Netherlands > >Visiting address: >Marconistraat 33A >7575 AR Oldenzaal >The Netherlands > >T: +31 (0)53 4892909 >M: +31 (0)64561 6734 >[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >www.cleanfuels.nl <http://www.cleanfuels.nl> > >On 21/04/2016 13:09, Mano Va wrote: >> Dear sir >> >> For this pyrolysis plant SCADA Automation not required because SCADA >> Computer, Programme and Software cost are high so >> >> simply can go with PLC and HMI unit,and can achieve All customised >> monitoring system like SCADA compare to SCADA its Cheaper >> >> PLC-Products OMRANG,DELTA its cheap ,ABB,GE,SIEMENS >> >> Regards, >> >> Manova.M >> >> On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 4:44 PM, Roland Siemons <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]?> >> wrote: >> >> Hello List, >> >> We need a simple SCADA system for a small pyrolysis plant (450 >> kg/h input) that we are building. >> Do you have any suggestions other than standard Siemens products? >> >> Best regards, >> >> Roland Siemons >> >> >> >> >> Clean Fuels B.V. >> Mail to: c/o University of Twente >> PO Box 217 >> 7500 AE Enschede >> The Netherlands >> >> Visiting address: >> Marconistraat 33A >> 7575 AR Oldenzaal >> The Netherlands >> >> T: +31 (0)53 4892909 <tel:%2B31%20%280%2953%204892909> >> M: +31 (0)64561 6734 >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]?> > >> www.cleanfuels.nl <http://www.cleanfuels.nl> <http://www.cleanfuels.nl> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gasification mailing list >> >> to Send a Message to the list, use the email address >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]?> > >> >> to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page >> http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org >> >> for more Gasifiers, News and Information see our web site: >> http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org/ >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gasification mailing list >> >> to Send a Message to the list, use the email address >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> >> to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page >> http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org >> >> for more Gasifiers, News and Information see our web site: >> http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org/ > > >_______________________________________________ >Gasification mailing list > >to Send a Message to the list, use the email address >[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > >to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page >http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org > >for more Gasifiers, News and Information see our web site: >http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org/ > > >_______________________________________________ >Gasification mailing list > >to Send a Message to the list, use the email address >[email protected] > >to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page >http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org > >for more Gasifiers, News and Information see our web site: >http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org/
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