Paul,
    The smallest Thermogenics has built is a 50 Kwe system and could consider a 
25 kwe system. I will send you information on the 50Kw separately. 

 

 

Sincerely,

Leland T. "Tom" Taylor
Thermogenics Inc. 
+001-505-463-8422 
www.thermogenicx.com
Skype: ltt.invent

 

 

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From: Paul Anderson <[email protected]>
To: gasification <[email protected]>
Sent: Tue, Apr 18, 2017 12:59 pm
Subject: Re: [Gasification] SPAM: Re: Small Scale Industrial Gasifiers


    Tom M. and Tom T., and all,
    
    What arer the sizes (kWe) (or some other measurement??) of these    units?  
 Big difference if discussing 5 kWe or 25 or 100 or larger.     My interest is 
in sizes under 25 kWe.
    
    Paul
    
Doc  /  Dr TLUD  /  Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
Email:  [email protected]
Skype:   paultlud    Phone: +1-309-452-7072
Website:  www.drtlud.com
    
On 4/18/2017 11:16 AM, l wrote:
    
    
            It        seems that these systems are all the same and          
have very limited input range, complex control systems, no          produced 
water removal and treatment system where water vapor          eats the engine 
parts from formation of organic and other          acids and lowers volumetric 
efficiency from dilution of the          produced gas. There are significant 
improvements that go          beyond these options and allow for much longer 
life of the          engine, highe r output per unit, less drying required and 
not          necessary for pelleting. 
        
 
        
        
 
        
        
Sincerely,
          
Leland T. "Tom" Taylor
          
Thermogenics Inc. 
          
+001-505-463-8422 
          
www.thermogenicx.com
          
Skype: ltt.invent
        
        
 
        
        
 
        
        
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          From: David Murphy <[email protected]>
          To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification          
<[email protected]>
          Sent: Tue, Apr 18, 2017 8:53 am
          Subject: Re: [Gasification] SPAM: Re: Small Scale Industrial          
Gasifiers
          
          
            
              
Nicolo,
                
                please stop sending me emails to other people.
                
                David Murphy.
                
                On 18/04/2017 5:04 PM, Nicolò Cerni wrote:
              
              
                
                  
you                    are welcome Tom,
                  

                  
                  
only                    4 manufacturers offer certified syngas with low tars    
                ( < than 4 mgr/nM3 )
                  
and                    only very few can process anything else other than       
             strictly selected wood chips
                  
here                    is one we are proud to represent
                  

                  
                  
www.pyrogas-gmbh.de
                  

                  
                  
The                    package units you refer to as Spanner had a GM 5,7       
             motor for years that required
                  
complete                    replacement  after 3/4 years, now they use a new 
USA                    Made  CHP engine called Origin 
                  
probably                    a labelled OEM Product we cannot  trace.
                  

                  
                  
our                    organic biomass gasifier AHT can process different       
             wood waste types and organic matters
                  
such                    as chicken manure
                  

                  
                  
regards
                  

                  
                  
NC
                  

                  
                
                

                  
                    
                      
                        
                        
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2017-04-18 0:26                    GMT+02:00 Tom Miles <[email protected]>:
                    
                      
                        
                          
Thanks,                              Nicolo. It’s good to know about you. 
                          
 
                          
I                              didn’t know there were that many                 
             manufacturers in Europe. 
                          
 
                          
Tom
                          
 
                                                    
From:                              Gasification 
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    On Behalf Of Nicolò Cerni
                              Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 3:08                 
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                              To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis               
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                              Subject: SPAM: Re: [Gasification]                 
             Small Scale Industrial Gasifiers
                          
 
                          
                            
                              
Hello
                            
                            
                              
 
                            
                            
                              
please                                  see our versions
                            
                            
                              
at                                  www.altair-pyro.com
                            
                            
                              
new                                  addresses here below
                            
                            
                              
we                                  are shipping to you our sales docs
                            
                            
                              
 
                            
                            
                              
our                                  prices are adjusted to local markets       
                           Levelized costs of energy 
                            
                            
                              
they                                  range from 3.200 to 4.600 Euros x 1       
                           Kwe installed Cogen set power
                            
                            
                              
 
                            
                            
                              
we                                  know all of the gasifiers you               
                   mentioned ( Volter is a Spanner user )
                            
                            
                              
we                                  have another 12 manufacturers in            
                      Europe
                            
                            
                              
 
                            
                            
                              
regards
                            
                            
                              
 
                            
                            
                              
NC
                            
                          
                          
                            
 
                            
                              
                                
                                  
                                    
                                  
                                  
                                    
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2017-04-17                                23:31 GMT+02:00 Tom Miles 
<[email protected]>:
                              
                                
                                  
                                    
At a                                      wood energy conference in Alaska      
                                last week it occurred to me that                
                      the number of small scale                                 
     “industrial” gasifiers is growing.                                      
They are now available worldwide                                      and there 
are many reports of good                                      customer service. 
Gasifiers that                                      were only available in 
Europe are                                      now being installed in North    
                                  America. 
                                    
 
                                    
Wood                                      chip and pellet gasifiers in the      
                                40-125 kWe range are now running                
                      7000 hours or more. 
                                    
 
                                    
Some                                      suppliers: 
                                    
Spanner                                      – 600 units
                                    
Volter                                      – 100 units
                                    
Holzenergie                                      – 60 units
                                    
Burkhardt                                      – 100+ (wood pellets)
                                    
 
                                    
These                                      units all have tight fuel            
                          requirements: pellets (Burkhardt)                     
                 or dry (13-15% MC), and properly                               
       sized fuel for reliable operation.                                      
Some suppliers offer sizing and                                      drying 
equipment. 
                                    
 
                                    
They                                      are all expensive so they require     
                                 applications where there is high               
                       value for the heat and the power.
                                    
 
                                    
What                                      has been the owner-operator           
                           experience of running these                          
            systems? 
                                    
 
                                    
Tom  
                                    
 
                                    
 
                                    
 
                                    
 
                                  
                                
                                

                                  
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