Not surprising the comments below. The list of gasifier failures continues to
grow without realizing the promises it portends.
We have gasified slagging materials and have had to operate between the
gasification and slagging temperatures using careful control of the temperature
and moderating materials to achieve this. We have managed to successfully
address the gas cooling and cleaning with simple, non-barrier, non-filtering,
non-fouling designs. Really work well at a very low cost and minimal
maintenance with no replacement materials or clogging, mostly at low
temperature.
Thermogenics continues to pursue the field in spite of the large number of
others who have crashed and burned, so to speak, but because of the number of
derelicts along the road, financing has been extremely difficult.
It is doubtful that what is being sought, a commercially successful straw
or general ag waste gasifier will be found, if it did exist in the commercial
realm, they would be so widespread that it would be an easy search, like so
many others who have been searching without success.
Sincerely,
Leland T. "Tom" Taylor
Thermogenics Inc.
+001-505-463-8422
www.thermogenicx.com
Skype: ltt.invent
-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas Koch <t...@tke.dk>
To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification
<gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org>
Sent: Sun, Dec 24, 2017 3:31 am
Subject: Re: [Gasification] Straw Fueled CHP
I spend 3 years at the technical university in Denmark to build a 50-100 kg
straw pyrolysis unit. I could not find any documents in English but here is a
Danish reference about the demo plant that came out of it. -
http://www.videncenter.dk/gule%20halm%20haefte/Gul_Dansk/halm-DK09.pdf
I was far too complicated to be commercial.
We tried to gasify straw with very little success in various smaller gasifier.
Slagging and channelling and high carbon content in the ash was some challenges.
Some years ago a project was upscaled to 6 MW - but there was some thing wrong
with the ash discharge principle. The K stayed in the bed and it was not
possible to operate the gasifier long enough to complete this project and
approx. half the funding was returned and the project stopped with out any
results.
https://energiforskning.dk/sites/energiteknologi.dk/files/slutrapporter/10730_gasolution_final_report.pdf
And in the same period charloss was renamed to BioCCS.
We did not find any easy solutions - but we only spend a few hundreds mio
dollars :-)
Fra: Gasification [gasification-boun...@lists.bioenergylists.org] på vegne af
Leland Taylor [linv...@aol.com]
Sendt: 24. december 2017 04:23
Til: gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org
Emne: Re: [Gasification] Straw Fueled CHP
Energy Farmers of Australia has very little specific information on their
"projects" which is disappointing. By producing bio=char, you have a built in
limit of energy conversion because bio-char or pyrolytic char represents the
30% fixed carbon in organic matter and is the overall thermal conversion is
intrinsically limited by this loss. I am still of the opinion that long term
"recycling" of crop residue which is what bio-char is has limited benefits from
other nutrient depletion.
Sincerely,
Leland T. "Tom" Taylor
Thermogenics Inc.
+001-505-463-8422
www.thermogenicx.com
Skype: ltt.invent
-----Original Message-----
From: Jason <ureped...@gmail.com>
To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification
<gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org>
Sent: Sat, Dec 23, 2017 6:03 pm
Subject: Re: [Gasification] Straw Fueled CHP
Hi Daryl,
try this crowd http://www.energyfarmers.com.au
I was connected to Euan Beamont at energy farmers back in 2013, and exchanged a
few emails with him. I directed him to this list, so he may be party to the
conversation anyway. A mutual friend was Business Development Officer for the
Council out there and was trying help progress for both Euan and myself.
Euan told me he knew these guys.
https://www.facebook.com/Green-Distillation-Technologies-427038147363145/
Best Regards
Jason Stewart
http://intensifire.co.nz
On Sat, Dec 23, 2017 at 5:28 PM, DARYL JOHN
SCHERGER<daryl.scher...@bigpond.com> wrote:
Thanks Tom,
I've received a few good leads and hopefully one of them will prove suitable.
Liz Hamilton suggested I use your site and it was well worth while.
We field burn million of tonnes of cereal straw annually in Australia and it
just makes sense to use it for energy instead.
Regards,
Daryl.
------ Original Message ------
From: tmi...@trmiles.com
To: "'Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification'"
<gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org>
Sent: Saturday, 23 Dec, 2017 At 3:06 AM
Subject: Re: [Gasification] Straw Fueled CHP
Ag Energy in Spokane, Washington has been developing a straw gasifier. You will
have to contact to them to discover their experience with engines and power
generation.
https://ag.energy/
Tom Miles
From: Gasification [mailto:gasification-boun...@lists.bioenergylists.org]On
Behalf Of Leland Taylor
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2017 4:19 AM
To: gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org
Subject: Re: [Gasification] Straw Fueled CHP
What is your anticipated cost/KW?
Sincerely,
Leland T. "Tom" Taylor
Thermogenics Inc.
+001-505-463-8422
www.thermogenicx.com
Skype: ltt.invent
-----Original Message-----
From: DARYL JOHN SCHERGER <daryl.scher...@bigpond.com>
To: gasification <gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org>
Sent: Thu, Dec 21, 2017 7:23 pm
Subject: [Gasification] Straw Fueled CHP
Hello,
I'm looking for a supplier of proven gasification CHP systems that can use
wheat straw as fuel, either shredded or as pellets. The outputs needed are 150
kWe net and 350 kWt.
I would like references from operating plants, preferably in Australia, Europe
or North America, to confirm the reliability of their systems.
Any suggestion will be gratefully received.
Yours sincerely,
Daryl Scherger.
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