Hi Jess,
the Spanner 10 kWe system is operational. So in general this might be an option for your needs. In my opinion, 10 kWe is too small capacity to be operated economically. So there should really be a strong demand for biomass based power generation to go this direction. Mit freundlichen Grüßen / with best regards Björn Kuntze MasterGas UG (haftungsbeschränkt) Bloherfelder Anger 7 26129 Oldenburg Germany Geschäftsführer: Björn Kuntze Mobil: +49 (0) 177 345 1557 Email: [email protected] Web: www.mastergas.de Handelsregister: HRB 211272 – Amtsgericht Oldenburg USt-ID-Nr: DE307863882 St.-Nr: 64/213/02649 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Diese Information ist ausschließlich für den Adressaten bestimmt und kann vertraulich oder gesetzlich geschützte Informationen enthalten. Wenn Sie nicht der bestimmungsgemäße Adressat sind, unterrichten Sie bitte den Absender und vernichten Sie diese Mail. 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We do not accept any responsibility for damages caused anyhow by viruses transmitted via email. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Von: Gasification [mailto:[email protected]] Im Auftrag von [email protected] Gesendet: Dienstag, 21. Mai 2019 09:32 An: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification <[email protected]> Betreff: Re: [Gasification] Need for off-grid non-solar electricity where biomass is plentiful - Fuel consumption of Spanner plants HI Bjorn, What do you think of the small Spanner 10kw chp machine? Yours, Jess Swallowfield Smallholding Beauly Scotland On 2018-11-15 07:01, Björn Kuntze wrote: Hi @ all, the older Spanner plants (HKA 45 and HKA 49) used low efficient GM-origin engines. These plants consume 0.9 kg/kWh_el. The HKA70 uses engine with higher compression ratio and higher compressing turbochargers. These plants consume 0.8 kg/kWh_el. Please note that the provided wood consumption figures are based on wet basis (13% water content). Hence wood consumption based on dry matter (what I always recommend to use for comparison) is somewhat lower (0.8, respective 0.7 kg/kWh_el). The efficiency increase of HKA 70 is due to the better engine. That´s all. Mit freundlichen Grüßen / with best regards Björn Kuntze MasterGas UG (haftungsbeschränkt) Bloherfelder Anger 7 26129 Oldenburg Germany Geschäftsführer: Björn Kuntze Mobil: +49 (0) 177 345 1557 Email: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Web: www.mastergas.de <http://www.mastergas.de> Handelsregister: HRB 211272 – Amtsgericht Oldenburg USt-ID-Nr: DE307863882 St.-Nr: 64/213/02649 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Diese Information ist ausschließlich für den Adressaten bestimmt und kann vertraulich oder gesetzlich geschützte Informationen enthalten. 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We do not accept any responsibility for damages caused anyhow by viruses transmitted via email. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Von: Gasification [mailto:[email protected]] Im Auftrag von Werner Rhein Gesendet: Dienstag, 13. November 2018 21:08 An: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Betreff: Re: [Gasification] Need for off-grid non-solar electricity where biomass is plentiful Hello Greg, The chip consumption of the Spanner units are around 1kg / kWh depending on quality of wood. I have some prices for the Spanner units in Euro but need a bit of time to sort it out. Regards, Werner On Nov 12, 2018, at 20:01, Anderson, Paul <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: Greg, You are stating about 1 pound of biomass per 1 kWe. The data sheet for Spanner is 0.9 kg per hour for 1 kWe (essentially your are half of their biomass consumption). Do you have an estimate of price (maybe use Canandian costs) for have one unit made (not a DIY unit). Maybe triple that cost to have the price for a model to be sold by a business. Paul Doc / Dr TLUD / Paul S. Anderson, PhD Exec. Dir. of Juntos Energy Solutions NFP Email: <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] Skype: paultlud Phone: Office: 309-452-7072 Mobile: 309-531-4434 Website: <http://www.drtlud.com/> www.drtlud.com From: Gasification <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > On Behalf Of Greg Manning Sent: Monday, November 12, 2018 12:15 PM To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Gasification] Need for off-grid non-solar electricity where biomass is plentiful Greetings Paul, and List members ! As far as input goes, from 10lbs. An hour and up. Output from, 10 to 30 kwE The original design had a direct coupled Chevy 350, however I have since changed to a belt driven system, this way "what's available" can be used as a prime mover. As far as operation, and use, a 2 day training for someone that has very basic skills in mechanics for servicing, and a 1 day for people that will be gathering and/or preperation of the biomass. As far as replication, off the North American continent a person with oxygen/acetylene torches could build it other than the actual generator. Greg. On Sun, Nov 11, 2018, 4:27 PM Anderson, Paul < <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] wrote: Hi Greg, Long time since we last communicated directly! You are one of those who "do." Please tell us size (input, output, etc.) and the extent that it could be replicated for large numbers of users. How much "skill level" is needed by the users? (YOU are not an average user. Could others operate it if the system was available?) Paul Doc / Dr TLUD / Paul S. Anderson, PhD Exec. Dir. of Juntos Energy Solutions NFP Email: <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] Skype: paultlud Phone: Office: 309-452-7072 Mobile: 309-531-4434 Website: <http://www.drtlud.com/> www.drtlud.com From: Gasification < <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]> On Behalf Of Greg Manning Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2018 4:19 PM To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification < <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]> Subject: Re: [Gasification] Need for off-grid non-solar electricity where biomass is plentiful Currently Busy with another project, HOWEVER, This post sparks my interest ! I do small scale biomass fired generation. Greg Manning, Canadian Gasifier Ltd. On Sun, Nov 11, 2018 at 2:31 PM Anderson, Paul < <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]> wrote: Tom and all, Please guide us (as a start) to understanding the needs and realities of off-grid non-solar power where biomass is plentiful. Are there some key links? Low-population, forested high latitude areas (less sunlight) without easy boat or train access would seem to be a major geographic region of need. Diesel generators seem to dominate the power generation. What sources confirm these statements, how big is the problem (expressed as numbers of gensets at what sizes), and what is being done about it, and by whom? (Canadians, please reply with your info.) This should be a significant topic for this Listserv. Paul Doc / Dr TLUD / Paul S. Anderson, PhD Exec. Dir. of Juntos Energy Solutions NFP Email: <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] Skype: paultlud Phone: Office: 309-452-7072 Mobile: 309-531-4434 Website: <http://www.drtlud.com/> www.drtlud.com From: Gasification < <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]> On Behalf Of <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2018 1:13 PM To: 'Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification' < <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]> Subject: Re: [Gasification] APL Gasifier in the Microgrid at the 2018 Verge Conference Are you in a marine air environment? There are many villages that need electricity in low coastal areas.. 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