Is it possible that I am getting hydrogen burning to get the bright yellow
color?  There is a fair amount of moisture in the cherry pits.


On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Ken Calvert <[email protected]> wrote:

> Derek, what you describe is like setting up an oxy acetylene blow torch.
> Pure acetylene is  all yellow with great shreds of carbon soot  coming out
> the endof the flame. As you open up the oxygen it starts getting greenish
> blue at the base and ends in yellow. When you getthe oxygen just right there
> is no yellow only two shades of blue, with a darker shade in the middleof
> the flame and a blue violet where the yellow was.
> For a good gasifier output  you want that outer blue violet colour all
> through.  Using air instead of oxygen, you do not get the intense combustion
> of the inner cone of a gas torch!    Ken C.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "derek schulze" <[email protected]>
> To: "Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification" <
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> Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 1:48 AM
> Subject: [Gasification] cherry pits again
>
>
>  I have managed to build my pilot project cherry pit gasifier and it is
>> working with the wet pits! - well at least it is producing gas that is
>> burning reliably.
>>
>> Now I have a couple of questions:
>>
>> 1)  My question is regarding the color of the flame.  It appears to be
>> blue-ish yellow near the base, but turns yellow near the top.  The yellow
>> is
>> not a deep orange color, but rather a bright yellow.  There is little to
>> no
>> sooting off the flame and no visible smoke.   I have made two different
>> burner designs as I was concerned about proper air introduction into the
>> gas
>> prior to combustion with little to no change   Either I am not cracking
>> the
>> tar adequately, or there is a lot of sodium in the pits.  Any thoughts? No
>> I do not have a temperature probe in the reaction zone.  As I will be
>> burning the gas in a boiler, I am not overly concerned about the gas, but
>> I
>> do not want to have excessive tar buildup if it can be avoided.
>>
>> 2)  The gasifier was producing a lot of moisture and tar for the first
>> hour
>> of operation but it's production slow substantially after that.  I did
>> quite
>> a bit of tweaking in that hour.
>>
>> 3)  Should I be using some coal or char at the base to help improve the
>> cracking?  Will the ash left from the first burn be adequate?
>>
>> I'll post a photo/video somewhere once I get the files off the camera.
>>
>> -Derek
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