I agree, the origin of the word "syngas" was a shortened term for synthetic 
natural gas and producer gas is raw gas made from the gasification of any form 
of coal, coke, or biomass materail.

Jim Leach, P.E.
-----Original Message-----
From: Toby Seiler [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 03:46 PM
To: 'Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification'
Subject: [Gasification] Syngas on Wiki_

Bruno, Wow that really shows a difference that I hope Doug and the list can 
see, thanks. This is one of the statements that leads to a misunderstanding, I 
believe. It is under "producer gas" saying; Producer Gas is a generic term 
referring to: Syngas: used as a fuel source or as an intermediate for the 
production of other chemicals. While I agree that synthesis gas is a fuel or 
intermediate, the fact that Wiki lists producer gas as also "syngas" is, I 
believe, wrong. Producer gas is not synthesis gas. Nitrogen is the main element 
in producer gas with relatively smaller amounts of H and CO where synthesis gas 
has much higher energy level CO and H2 concentrations and low low N, if any. 
Jim insists that his GEK is making "syngas" in all of his web communications 
that I see, taking advantage of and fostering a misconception and 
misrepresentation that a producer gas making machine (GEK) he is selling, will 
make "syngas". I've asked that he market with the correct term, but he refuses. 
I feel that this marketing use of "syngas" term is misleading in his machines 
capability as a gasifier. Synthesis gas making should be so easy. I hope 
someone who contributes to Wiki will do some more digging to identifty the 
differences and references. None of the comments on the syngas page identified 
a difference between producer and syngas, yet synthesis gas clearly states how 
fuels can be synthesized...but does not describe producer gas as also synthesis 
gas. Perhaps others will see and help document more key differences. The Wiki 
process to make a change is not one that I have navigated. The issue with the 
"syngas" term is, to date, the biggest disappointment I have had using Wiki. 
Best regards, Toby Seiler Seilertechco 
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