There is another weakness in the rankings. They do not consider the teams needs. For example, if we would have recruited 25 5 star recruits that were entirely from the defensive backfield, we would have been a clear #1 in their rankings. The fact that we could not actually use that many is immaterial to their system. Also, the individual player rankings do not include character nor academic ability. No matter how good a player is, if he can't stay in school because he is always in trouble or because he cannot succeed academically, the recruit is of actual NEGATIVE value. Finally, the classes should be re-ranked in the fall based upon actual admission. Some schools (F$U for example) often recruits a few extra players that cannot qualify. This overstates their recruiting ranking.
Jerry From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Vega Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 12:24 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Rank On Feb 5, 2009, at 11:11 AM, Buck Shot wrote: Actually it is Rivals that has some 'nolie ownership. Gene Williams, aka Dot.com, has some type of ownership there. As as a result, many times FSU's recruits are "enhanced" and UF's are "devalued. The crazy thing about this is other than the FSU - UF thing, Rivals is perhap the best of the services for ranking recruits and classes. Scout, IMNO, is the poorest, due to their rating system which is based on the total number of recruits you sign. So when we signed a relatively small class, no matter if all 16 had been 5 star recruits, we had no chance to be ranked in the top 10. ESPN, which in the past has been a joke, for the last two or three years has made a serious committment to HS recruiting and now their credibility is among the best. To some extent, all of the services are influenced by the total number of recruits. I can see some logic here, as not all recruits pan out and there is a better chance of getting a star player from a pool of five 4 star signees than there is from just three 4 star signees. That said, total volumes are cyclical based upon graduation, transfers, and players going pro. The only thing a coach can control is the quality of players signed, not the number of scholarships available. So, let's look at UF's signees from a quality standpoint. Rivals: UF 3.94 Avg. Stars (#1 in the country - up from #10) USC appears to be #2 at 3.89 and LSU #3 at 3.84 Scout: UF 3.81 Avg. Stars (#3 in the country - quite a jump from #21) USC and UGa tied #1 with 3.89 ESPN: Can't clearly tell from its web site. We do have 8 of its top 150, which ties us for #5 with Uga. Perhaps it is a coincidence, but ESPN's rankings exactly follow the number of its top 150 in that school's class (e.g. LSU #1 with 10, Ala #2 with 9, etc.). >From a quality standpoint, USC (2, 3 and 4), LSU (3, 5 and 1) and and Florida (1, 3 and 5) appear to be the cream of this year's crop. UGa comes in at 4, 2, and 6. Exciting times ahead in the SEC. -Zeb --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
