That's my point exactly! We're OK. We actually had a major
remodeling project for the last 8 months that gave some folks needed
work - and money. With my schedule we weren't able to eat out much
last year. This year we've been eating out about once every two
weeks. Mostly at one of two restaurants owned by a friend - where you
can split a dinner for no extra cost. Two appetizers, one dinner, one
dessert, plus a couple of glasses of wine.
 Today, with the parents visiting, we had breakfast on a gift
certificate that the husband bought for 1/2 price from a student's
group's fundraiser, then toured the Florida Museum of Natural
History.  
 Life is still great in Gainesville!
 On Fri 27/02/09  9:53 AM , [email protected] sent:
 I dont want it to be seen that were blowing something out of
proportion.  thats not the case at all.  but as the saying
goes...this too shall pass.  itll hurt, but it wont kill...hopefully.
 ---- Jay Cicone  wrote: 
 > yes
 > 
 >  
 > 
 > From: [email protected] [[email protected] [2]]
On
 > Behalf Of Oliver Barry
 > Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 8:18 AM
 > To: [email protected] [3]
 > Subject: RE: [gatortalk] [gatortalk]
 > 
 >  
 > 
 > You're right Bill, we'll get through all this.  I've talked with
some people
 > who were there for the Depression.  As bad as it is right now,
it's not as
 > bad as it was then.  
 > 
 > It may well get worse for a time, but it will get better.  And,
we'll all
 > make it.
 > 
 > Oliver
 > 
 >  
 > 
 >   _____  
 > 
 > From: [email protected] [4] on behalf of
[email protected] [5]
 > Sent: Fri 2/27/2009 6:50 AM
 > To: [email protected] [6]
 > Cc: Gatorrrrrr
 > Subject: [gatortalk] [gatortalk]
 > 
 >  
 > 
 > I first want to say Im very sorry to hear of the pay cuts and loss
of
 > financial stability accross this board.  Although I have never met
any one
 > of you, its tough to watch friends deal with such turmoil.  Its
never fun to
 > have to deal with that especially for those who are paycheck to
paycheck
 > people.  I do however want to add this if I may be so bold. 
 > 
 > Ive been through many hurricanes here in Florida and the part of
the
 > hurricane thats the worst, to me, is the anticipation and the
unknown.
 > Whats to come, where do we go after, I personally cannot plan for
the after
 > affects until I know what the effects are.  The hurricane itself
is a
 > difficult thing to have to go through.  Being strong on the
outside when the
 > inside is freaking out so your wife and children dont take notice
of the
 > weaknesses.  The high winds the high anxiety, whats going to
happen, what
 > damage are we going to sustain, power, food...etc.  But, then the
hurricane
 > is done.  We arise from the mess and we can assess the damage,
start to
 > rebuild and move forward.  ALSO theres the sense of community that
rises.
 > All of us are going through this together and we all can help one
another.
 > If for nothing else, jut a shouler to cry on. 
 > 
 > We are in the eye of the hurricane.  It'll get worse before it
gets better,
 > however, each day we wake is one day closer to peace.  We need to
remember
 > that we will get through this, but well get through this as a
community of
 > people being there for one another.  I have neighbors that lost
60+ percent
 > of their salary, company vehicles and I myself have had salary
reductions
 > and imminent threats of loss of job.  My wife is a school teacher
and she is
 > facing salary reductions and loss of benefits.  I know how easy it
is to
 > take the soap box and preach whatever, but I hope that we all get
through
 > the hurricane.  Im confident we will.  Yes well have some bumps
and bruises,
 > but theres not a person on this list that I cant call a surviver. 
We will
 > all come through this and life will go on. 
 > 
 > Kiss your spouse, hug your kid, turn on the radio and enjoy some
music.  We
 > will all get through this and look back while we close another
chapter in
 > our lives.
 > 
 > I hope this wasnt too corny, but I guess I felt I needed to say
it.  God
 > Bless all of my GatorNetters I appreciate you a ton.
 > 
 > Bill
 > 
 > ---- Gatorrrrrr  wrote:
 > > Its some really tough times out there guys... Sendin allll
kindsa 
 > > positive thoughts your way.
 > >
 > > I may have a bit of a scare comin my way... While i am really 
 > > conflicted by it... Alot is riding on what happens with GM for
me.
 > >
 > > Woody
 > > Sent from iPhone
 > >
 > > On Feb 27, 2009, at 1:06 AM, "[email protected] [8]"  
 > > wrote:
 > >
 > > > Thanks everybody for the encouraging words (although, working
for a 
 > > > company that makes IT software....uffff...guess just need to
ride it 
 > > > out for now!).
 > > >
 > > > I think for a quarter, I am going to not contribute to 401K (I
am 
 > > > sure Jay sez NO!)...company match has been suspended too. Will
just 
 > > > wait and watch.
 > > >
 > > > On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 11:25 PM, Jerry Belloit 
 > > >  wrote:
 > > > Jnene, Randy,  Badrish, and others who have been hit hard by
these 
 > > > troubling economic  times,
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > > I am really sorry to hear about your difficulties.  Jnene, I
was 
 > > > envious about your husband's job at the Union.  I had thought
about 
 > > > doing something like that when I retire.  No raises for that
long ha
 > > > s to be stressing the family budget.  Badrish, that is a big
pay cut
 > > > , but I guess the alternative might be Randy's situation. 
Someone t
 > > > old me recently that companies were cutting back on their IT
but I d
 > > > id not believe it.  I guess I was wrong.
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > > I serve a the treasurer for a multiple county community
foundation 
 > > > where we manage a significant amount of money.  Today I had a 
 > > > meeting of the investment committee and we met with our three 
 > > > different account managers.  It was not pretty.  I had
anticipated 
 > > > the bad news in our equity portfolio, but some of the fixed
has 
 > > > experienced losses as well. I could not imagine A bond
portfolios 
 > > > losing money, but there were some companies that went bankrupt
and 
 > > > some barely on life support (AIG)..  Go figure.  I thought
thing 
 > > > were horrible until I realized that they were reporting on
December 
 > > > 31 year end totals.  Since then we have probably lost another
7-9%.  
 > > > Unfortunately, there will be a lot less scholarships awarded
this 
 > > > year.
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > > There was a consensus from all three experts (perhaps I should
say 
 > > > so called experts since they did not adequately hedge protect
the 
 > > > portfolio) that the market should level out at the end of the
first 
 > > > quarter with the economy  showing positive GNP growth by the
third 
 > > > quarter.  I pray they are correct.
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > > By the way, for those of you who have fled the equity market
and are 
 > > > holding bonds, I instructed our fund managers to shorten the
average 
 > > > maturities of the fixed markets to target no more than two -
three y
 > > > ears.  I am very worried that our national debt will come home
to ro
 > > > ost and we could see some significant inflation in 2-3 years. 
If I 
 > > > am correct, the bond market will be hit hard.
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > > Jerry
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > > From: [email protected] [[email protected]
[11]] 
 > > > On Behalf Of [email protected] [12]
 > > > Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 6:51 PM
 > > > To: [email protected] [13]
 > > >
 > > > Subject: Re: FW: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] AJC.com: Florida 
 > > > lineman facing accusation of multiple date rapes
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > > Ouch! My pay has been frozen for 3 years. The husband's has
been 
 > > > frozen for 2 years. This too shall pass...
 > > >
 > > > On Thu 26/02/09 6:39 PM , "[email protected] [14]"
[email protected] [15] 
 > > > sent:
 > > >
 > > > Me too...we just took a 20% pay cut...across the company.
 > > >
 > > > On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 5:05 PM, Oliver Barry  
 > > > wrote:
 > > >
 > > > Me too.  I'm going to run 20 miles on Sunday.
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > > Oliver Barry, CRS, GRI
 > > >
 > > > Real Estate Broker
 > > >
 > > > Halo Realty, LLC
 > > >
 > > > 700 E. Main St.
 > > >
 > > > Hendersonville TN 37075
 > > >
 > > > [email protected] [17]
 > > >
 > > > office: 615-822-3509
 > > >
 > > > fax: 615-822-7741
 > > >
 > > > mobile: 615-972-4239
 > > >
 > > > ---,==, > >
 > > > From: [email protected] [[email protected]
[18]] 
 > > > On Behalf Of Jay Cicone
 > > > Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 3:58 PM
 > > > To: [email protected] [19]
 > > > Subject: RE: FW: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] AJC.com: Florida 
 > > > lineman facing accusation of multiple date rapes
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > > I'm really looking forward to sculling this weekend. I need a
break.
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > > From: [email protected] [[email protected]
[20]] 
 > > > On Behalf Of Shane Ford
 > > > Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 4:53 PM
 > > > To: [email protected] [21]
 > > > Subject: RE: FW: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] AJC.com: Florida 
 > > > lineman facing accusation of multiple date rapes
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > > DARN, Jay!  I can't wait that long........  We've been waiting
to 
 > > > hear about the F$U sanctions for..... well....  I can't
remember, 
 > > > but I'm sure it's been a LONG time.  :-)
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > > -------------- Original message from "Jay Cicone" :
--------------
 > > >
 > > > It's imminent.
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > > From: [email protected] [[email protected]
[22]] 
 > > > On Behalf Of Shane Ford
 > > > Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 4:16 PM
 > > > To: [email protected] [23]; Gatortalk
 > > > Cc: Oliver Barry
 > > > Subject: Re: FW: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] AJC.com: Florida 
 > > > lineman facing accusation of multiple date rapes
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > > No NEW word on the Gainesville Sun's website about it.
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > > Shane
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > > GO GATORS!!
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > > -------------- Original message from "Oliver Barry"  > > >:
--------------
 > > >
 > > > According to Gatorcountry the charges were supposed to be
dropped in 
 > > > court yesterday.  I don't know if that's what happened because
I 
 > > > haven't been near a computer yet today to find out.
 > > > Oliver
 > > >
 > > > -----Original Message-----
 > > > From: Rob Alexander 
 > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 9:45 PM
 > > > To: [email protected] [26] 
 > > > Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] AJC.com: Florida lineman
facing 
 > > > accusation of multiple date rapes
 > > >
 > > > I really don't understand how someone would be date-raped
three 
 > > > times. Isn't
 > > > a date-rape that you voluntarily went on a date with someone
and 
 > > > then were
 > > > raped by the person you were on a date with? So, after that 
 > > > happened, she
 > > > went out on another date with the same guy who had raped her
on the 
 > > > first
 > > > date? Why would any woman do that? And then, after being raped
again 
 > > > on the
 > > > second date, she went out yet a third time with a guy who had
raped 
 > > > her
 > > > twice before? That would be stupid beyond belief.
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > > Rob
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > > From: [email protected] [[email protected]
[28]] 
 > > > On
 > > > Behalf Of John Vega
 > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 3:22 PM
 > > > To: [email protected] [29]
 > > > Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] AJC.com: Florida lineman
facing
 > > > accusation of multiple date rapes
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > > On Feb 25, 2009, at 3:16 PM, Steve McKibben wrote:
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > > Remember that he is being accused, but has not been charged -
nor 
 > > > has the
 > > > girl even pressed charges on the alleged date rapes.
 > > >
 > > > The hearing is a civil matter on whether or not to continue a 
 > > > restraining
 > > > order she had taken out on him.
 > > >
 > > > I'd say typical spin from a poodle paper, but our local rag
has been 
 > > > almost
 > > > as sensational, and just as misleading with their headlines.
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > > I'm not sure where I read this, but I recall that the
restraining 
 > > > order was
 > > > asked for months after their relationship had ended and in
response to
 > > > Johnson dating another woman.
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > > While that does not invalidate the allegations, it sure makes
me 
 > > > skeptical.
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > > I'm also a little puzzled as to the likelihood of a woman
being 
 > > > susceptible
 > > > to date rape on three separate occasions.
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > > I'd wager that Johnson comes out looking pretty good once all
the 
 > > > facts are
 > > > known.
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > > -Zeb
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
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